Cope.

If Switch sold 2 years less as a major console it would sell a lot less. If the 6th gen continued 2 more years that console would do higher numbers. If there was no pandemic Switch would have sold less. If Lite wasn't released Switch would sold less. Should I continue ? There is endless possibilities with the "if".

It's not cope, even a $50 price drop would demolish 160 easy, everyone including you knows it. Even as is, it will cross 160 if Nintendo lets it continue production, the demand is sufficient to get there and there is no budget options available to parents at all. 

Yes. And so is all I listed, there, and in my previous post. Aaaaaaand what ? Can you change anything ? No, you can't. Is this matters ? No, cuz it applies for every single case on every single machine. Different factors, different results.

How is this even remotely relevant to people acting as if 155m is the final total when that is false? One can debate how beneficial the circumstances of the Switch were compared to other consoles but that topic is completely irrelevant to what XtremeBG was responding to. Reacting this way to a factually false statement getting corrected is pretty strange.

If all Switch comprised of were the original model and the OLED at their current prices, then yes, the 160m ship would have sailed long ago. It all hinges on the Lite model which maintains a value proposition that no other game system on the market can match. That’s never been the case before, as there has always been a Wii, 3DS, even a $249 Xbox One eventually... something as an alternative to whatever was popular and more expensive at the time. There is nothing on the market that comes close to the Lite’s value even at $229 and there are always kids, people going on trips, jobs with a lot of down time, etc where a cheap handheld fits the bill for someone looking for more than mobile games and the Switch’s library is among the best in history. Obviously, these numbers won’t amount to big sales anymore, but could Nintendo exceed its 2m projection for this fiscal year if it applied itself? Of course it could. The question is, will it?

Maybe Nintendo can’t do anything about the price increasing but it sure could make the value of the hardware more attractive via bundles, as including a code in the box wouldn’t cost them squat. It would, however, get “budget” priced hardware into people’s hands who would then buy more games, sign up for online accounts and possibly upgrade to Switch 2 hardware eventually instead of going with the competition. All wins and no losses for Nintendo.

Tomodachi Life is incredibly popular and hasn’t even had its first holiday yet. I think a $249 Switch Lite bundle this fall would sell nicely. Rhythm Heaven comes out this summer and there are still other token games like Professor Layton and Decapolice yet to arrive. How about those Wind Waker, Skyward Sword and Wooly World releases for Switch 1, Nintendo? You release Luigi’s Mansion 2 for Switch but not A Link Between Worlds? How can a game that good die on the 3DS?

Another thing to keep in mind is that the idea of a Switch 2 Lite, something I’ve always said would essentially replace the current Lite as the budget alternative, is probably not happening any time soon, as the general consensus seems to be that it could not arrive at a price cheap enough that would justify it. This would legitimize keeping Switch Lite around even more as the “impulse buy” offering, possibly after the other models have been discontinued.

Remember, unlike any of us here, there are folks who are not looking to spend $449+ on a gaming platform who could be enticed by a Switch Lite for a few more years. If it does happen it will probably be around 2030 or so, but yeah, leave it on the market for a 13 year total and I think we still have something to discuss. I think people exclaiming it’s all over or that it would need another 10 years (oh please) to accomplish this are short sided of a scenario such as this. Doesn’t mean it’s happening though - maybe just my way of coping, lol - but I’m still not calling it quits until this fiscal year plays out.

Turns out, Mattrick was ahead of the curve...

Other systems wouldn't even hit 120 million without the benefit of multiple price drops and this wouldn't even be a conversation. 

There's no other game hardware I doubt that would cross even 130 million without price drops. 

Yeah, pretty much. 

The fact that Switch can potentially end up at least close to 160m without a pricecut makes it an unheard success case already.

You didn't get it. Talking with "ifs" is pointless because this can change every single system's course. And if you want to include only results above 130M, okay. Then you can be sure that at least 4 more systems could reach 130M with added "ifs". And some of them even more. 

Switch also didn't hit 130 with it's original price. The Lite at 199$ counts for close to 30M of it's total units. Comparing it is pointless. You have also more years on the market as a major console, where you have less time on other consoles. You also cover both home and handheld markets which gives more potential for sales, unlike other consoles.

To summarize, either accept the final results as they are, with no ifs and buts, or if you want to even the factors out (which I am not sure if it's possible), then include all of them (for both sides), not just picking one, in the face of " Switch didn't had price cuts ". It sold close to 30M units at 100$ less than it's original price. I don't know how and why many of the people are missing that fact and stick to that " no price drops ". Having entry point at 100$ less than the official original price is basically the same thing. 

Hmmm. Why are we not even considering a scenario where sales might stabilize in the post replacement years, like it happened with that other console that magically sold another 5M units in its final year?