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Link to VGChartz article here.

PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch 2023 Worldwide Sales Comparison Charts Through September

Here we see data representing the sales through to consumers and change in sales performance of the three current platforms (PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and Nintendo Switch) and two legacy platforms (PlayStation 4 and Xbox One) over comparable periods for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. Also shown is the market share for each of the consoles over the same periods.

Year to Date Sales Comparison (Same Periods Covered)

Market Share (Same Periods Covered)

2020 – (January 2020 to September 2020)

2021 – (January 2021 to September 2021)

2022 – (January 2022 to September 2022)

2023 – (January 2023 to September 2023)

"Year to date" sales for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 sales are shown in series at the top of the table and then just below a comparison of 2023 versus 2022 and 2023 versus 2021 is displayed.  This provides an easy-to-view summary of all the data.

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

Microsoft

  • Xbox Series X|S
    • 4.20 million units sold year-to-date
    • Down year-on-year 1,098,414 units (-20.7%)

Nintendo

  • Nintendo Switch
    • 10.03 million units sold year-to-date
    • Down year-on-year 1.157,910 units (-10.4%)

Sony

  • PlayStation 5
    • 12.86 million units sold year-to-date
    • Up year-on-year 5,554,870 units (76.0%)
  • PlayStation 4
    • 0.20 million units sold year-to-date
    • Up year-on-year 28,068 (15.9%)


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trunkswd said:

Link to VGChartz article here.

PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch 2023 Worldwide Sales Comparison Charts Through September

Here we see data representing the sales through to consumers and change in sales performance of the three current platforms (PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and Nintendo Switch) and two legacy platforms (PlayStation 4 and Xbox One) over comparable periods for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. Also shown is the market share for each of the consoles over the same periods.

Year to Date Sales Comparison (Same Periods Covered)

Market Share (Same Periods Covered)

2020 – (January 2020 to September 2020)

2021 – (January 2021 to September 2021)

2022 – (January 2022 to September 2022)

2023 – (January 2023 to September 2023)

"Year to date" sales for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 sales are shown in series at the top of the table and then just below a comparison of 2023 versus 2022 and 2023 versus 2021 is displayed.  This provides an easy-to-view summary of all the data.

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

Microsoft

  • Xbox Series X|S
    • 4.20 million units sold year-to-date
    • Down year-on-year 1,098,414 units (-20.7%)

Nintendo

  • Nintendo Switch
    • 10.03 million units sold year-to-date
    • Down year-on-year 1.157,910 units (-10.4%)

Sony

  • PlayStation 5
    • 12.86 million units sold year-to-date
    • Up year-on-year 5,554,870 units (76.0%)
  • PlayStation 4
    • 0.20 million units sold year-to-date
    • Up year-on-year 28,068 (15.9%)

YTD comparison 2022 vs 2023 it is quite depressive for Xbox when you look at PS5.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

Starfield barely gave Xbox any bump. Even with the Activision deal going through, I feel like they're a spent force this gen, I'd be surprised if they manage to significantly outsell the Xbox One.

They're basically dead in the water at this point, and if even the newest big Bethesda game can't change that, I doubt anything can.

It's in its 7th year, of course sales are going down, most consoles are dead or dying by this point.

Considering sales curve I would say that even outselling X1 isn't ensured, and that is investing 100B on the system and increasing GP on consoles to saturation point already.

I feel that in many ways now the transitioning away from dedicated hardware and the focus on software delivery across a variety of platforms that sees the gaming division becoming closer in alignment with the rest of MS seems to have gained even more momentum with the ABK buyout, and that along with MS's focus away from traditional content delivery means the imperative to grow hardware sales is less than what it once was,so rather than just looking to use those acquisitions to further push hardware, they instead are focused on using them to help form the groundwork that leads toward the day all those Xbox- Bethesda and ABK games are delivered via cloud across various platforms.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 26 October 2023

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Link to VGChartz article here.

PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Launch Sales Comparison Through Month 35

This monthly series compares the aligned launch sales of the PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and Nintendo Switch.

It should be noted the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series X|S had a worldwide launch, while the PlayStation 5 launch was split over the course of two weeks. Also, the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017, while the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S launched during the holidays in November 2020.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S Vs. Switch Global:

  1. Switch: 50,370,596
  2. PS5: 43,869,431
  3. XSX|S: 23,902,979

Through the first 35 months available worldwide the Nintendo Switch is ahead of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S. The Switch is ahead of the PS5 by 6.50 million units and is 26.47 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 19.97 million units.

The Switch has sold 50.37 million in 35 months worldwide, while the PS5 sold 43.87 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 23.90 million units.

Looking at the marketshare through 35 months, the Switch is in the lead. The Switch has a 42.7 percent marketshare, the PS5 sits at 37.1 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 20.2 percent.


PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S Vs. Switch US:

  1. Switch: 17,310,542
  2. PS5: 15,670,457
  3. XSX|S: 11,677,237

Through the first 35 months available in the US the Nintendo Switch is ahead of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S. The Switch is ahead of the PS5 by 1.64 million units and is 5.63 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 3.99 million units.

The Switch has sold 17.31 million in 35 months in the US, while the Switch sold 15.67 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 11.68 million units.

Looking at the marketshare through 35 months, the Switch currently leads. The Switch has a 38.8 percent marketshare, the PS5 sits at 35.1 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 26.1 percent.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S Vs. Switch Europe:

  1. PS5: 13,804,055
  2. Switch: 13,053,348
  3. XSX|S: 6,632,246

Through the first 35 months available in Europe the PlayStation 5 is ahead of the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Switch by 0.75 million units and is 7.17 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. The Switch is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 6.42 million units.

The PS5 has sold 13.80 million in 35 months in Europe, while the Switch sold 13.05 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 6.63 million units.

Looking at the marketshare through 35 months, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 41.2 percent marketshare, the Switch sits at 39.0 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 19.8 percent.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S Vs. Switch Japan:

  1. Switch: 11,891,627
  2. PS5: 4,456,328
  3. XSX|S: 515,536

Through the first 35 months available in Japan the Switch is ahead of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S by a wide margin. The Switch is ahead of the PS5 by 7.44 million units and is 11.38 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 3.94 million units.

The Switch has sold 11.89 million units in 35 months in Japan, while the PS5 has sold 4.46 million units, and the Xbox Series X|S 0.52 million units.

Looking at the marketshare through 35 months, the Switch currently leads. The Switch has a 70.5 percent marketshare, the PS5 sits at 26.4 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 3.1 percent.



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mjk45 said:
DonFerrari said:

Considering sales curve I would say that even outselling X1 isn't ensured, and that is investing 100B on the system and increasing GP on consoles to saturation point already.

I feel that in many ways now the transitioning away from dedicated hardware and the focus on software delivery across a variety of platforms that sees the gaming division becoming closer in alignment with the rest of MS seems to have gained even more momentum with the ABK buyout, and that along with MS's focus away from traditional content delivery means the imperative to grow hardware sales is less than what it once was,so rather than just looking to use those acquisitions to further push hardware, they instead are focused on using them to help form the groundwork that leads toward the day all those Xbox- Bethesda and ABK games are delivered via cloud across various platforms.

Yes. Many are seeing that MS is truly going to go full third party soon, they may have their system and give it preference, but all noteworthy titles being released multiplat, even more depending on how the GP grows or not.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Switch is doing amazing globally considering it's going to be 7 in a little over 5 months from this data.
PS5 is on the ramping up phase nearing its peak years (which calendar year 2023 will probably be one of them) thanks to wide availability (for those that will pay for Sony's asking price) and its large library of PS4 and PS5 games.
Xbox Series X/S has probably nearly matched Xbox's lifetime sales (as of the unreleased October figures), is outpacing Xbox 360 by about 2.7 million, but is slightly behind Xbox One in the same LTD period. If Xbox Series X/S doesn't ramp up sales soon, it's probably going to finish right around the Xbox One.
PS4 managed to sell over 20,000 units in September. We'll have to wait for Sony's confirmation of discontinuation to know how much sales are (roughly) after discontinuation. For all we know, Sony could've discontinued PS4 earlier this year and are only selling remaining stock.




Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 48 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:

PS4 managed to sell over 20,000 units in September. We'll have to wait for Sony's confirmation of discontinuation to know how much sales are (roughly) after discontinuation. For all we know, Sony could've discontinued PS4 earlier this year and are only selling remaining stock.


It won't be much more than 117.1 or 117.2M



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Wman1996 said:

Switch is doing amazing globally considering it's going to be 7 in a little over 5 months from this data.
PS5 is on the ramping up phase nearing its peak years (which calendar year 2023 will probably be one of them) thanks to wide availability (for those that will pay for Sony's asking price) and its large library of PS4 and PS5 games.
Xbox Series X/S has probably nearly matched Xbox's lifetime sales (as of the unreleased October figures), is outpacing Xbox 360 by about 2.7 million, but is slightly behind Xbox One in the same LTD period. If Xbox Series X/S doesn't ramp up sales soon, it's probably going to finish right around the Xbox One.
PS4 managed to sell over 20,000 units in September. We'll have to wait for Sony's confirmation of discontinuation to know how much sales are (roughly) after discontinuation. For all we know, Sony could've discontinued PS4 earlier this year and are only selling remaining stock.

So far this year Series sales is like 25% lower YTD, for them to revert it and have a growth for the year their holiday will need to be very good, and considering that even on the month of Starfield it barely increased I don't think even on 2024 they will have growth against 2023 much less 2022.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

So far this year Series sales is like 25% lower YTD, for them to revert it and have a growth for the year their holiday will need to be very good, and considering that even on the month of Starfield it barely increased I don't think even on 2024 they will have growth against 2023 much less 2022.

2024 will be weaker than 2023 ? Which should be weaker than 2022 according to you ?

Series should have peak years. At least two .. Which from the looks of things 2023 won't be one of them, however it still can deliver one normal holiday boost and beat 2022.. The 2022 and 2021 holiday boost were mediocre. Now there is a chance.

However I think 2024 and 2025 might be those peak years for the Series where maybe it can do something like 10M for the year. And after that slowly to go 8M, 6.5M you know, just like the years after 2017 for the XB1. It may finish around XB1 or even slightly ahead lifetime of sales let's say 65M ? But then again it can go either way. The next two years will be decisive about this.

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XtremeBG said:
DonFerrari said:

So far this year Series sales is like 25% lower YTD, for them to revert it and have a growth for the year their holiday will need to be very good, and considering that even on the month of Starfield it barely increased I don't think even on 2024 they will have growth against 2023 much less 2022.

2024 will be weaker than 2023 ? Which should be weaker than 2022 according to you ?

Series should have peak years. At least two .. Which from the looks of things 2023 won't be one of them, however it still can deliver one normal holiday boost and beat 2022 out from the water .. The 2022 and 2011 holiday boost were mediocre. Now there is a chance.

However I think 2024 and 2025 might be those peak years for the Series where maybe it can do something like 10M for the year. And after that slowly to go 8M, 6.5M you know, just like the years after 2017 for the XB1. It may finish around XB1 or even slightly ahead lifetime of sales let's say 65M ? But then again it can go either way. The next two years will be decisive about this.

Usually sales curve go up at the early years, plateau near the peak and them have sharp decline. Not usual at all to see a console in the third year having a 25% drop YoY to see a big increase in sales for the 4th year. And you want to believe the 5th year would also be better than 2022/2023? Well I don't think it will come through, but best of luck on that (also it isn't uncommon for consoles that didn't get much traction to see peak on 2nd or 3rd year).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."