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Otter said:
OTBWY said:

Again, I don't understand this mentality. 

Someone somewhere probably connected OLED screens with Nintendo at some point and insiders started talking about a Pro model. It went on to live its own life probably. It's on us pretty much.

I think its unlikely it was just made up and snowballed, OLED doesn't equate to better specs and the rumours were actually quite specific and lots of reputable sources touched on it. Eurogamer had their own sources which makes me imagine it was something happening/being prototyped behind the scenes but plans changed. At one point MS was playing with giving Xbox One X a new CPU but it was too expensive.

 I agree though, its on us if we believe rumours will be 100% accurate. Even if they are true at the time of reporting it doesn't mean the company isn't floating various options at that point or that the info isn't outdated.

You instead choose to believe Nintendo decided to just sit on a model with upgraded internal chipset and releases an OLED model without that? Because you believe the rumours?

It might be possible that Nintendo considered a 4K option and chose not to go that way, but some rumours included apparently production of a new model and combined that with 4K. So no, Nintendo hasn't produced 4K units and holds them now back out of spite. So the rumours were wrong.



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Honestly the biggest upgrade is the stand. That's the most enticing feature for me.



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So, the most important takeaway is: Nintendo just secured that Switch will 2021 sell even more than 2020! Which is incredible. because 2020 already was a bonkers year for Switch. If Switch is peaking in 2021, it really has a shot at PS2 and DS in the end.

Also I am kinda amused by the reactions. People created rumours about a more powerful Switch model basically the moment the original Switch dropped. Because no company can really make an underpowered product like this in 2017! But now we have 2021, and sales still don't slow down. And now people are upset, because the ridiculous rumours they decided to believe aren't true.

And right there the thread is full of people that never intended to purchase a Switch in the first place declaring openly that *now* they won't get one. Hilarious. But despite all this internet anger on Twitter and in forums, Switch will go on selling, because people just simply enjoy playing with the thing, and now got more options to do so. Nice!

Ah yes, the ridiculous believe in a Switch Pro is now instantly replaced with the ridiculous believe that Nintendo will pretty soon replace their extremely successful device. I guess we will see.



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I am so happy! This basically is what I wanted them to do: a newer version to entice people that are somewhat on the fence about getting a Switch, and potentially get some more purchases from the hardcore that want the OLED, but nothing that would be such an upgrade that they have to delay Switch 2 release. The fact that they don't even have a "new" or "pro" attached to it, along with the fact that it isn't 4k really tells me that Switch 2 is coming in 2023 or the latest 2024, which is what I want. If they went all out with this device and sales exploded then I suspect they would have delayed Switch 2 launch until 2025 or later and that would have been a massive bummer for me. Hopefully, we get a proper 6-year life cycle and Switch 2 coming March 2023, this news about the OLED version certainly gives me hope.



I think we need to come to an understanding that, while the Switch is a hybrid, Nintendo sees it first and foremost as a portable device--one that can attach to your TV. They do NOT see it as a home console that you can take on the go. This is proven by the fact that my launch Switch will perform exactly the same when docked as this OLED Switch when it launches in October. But as a portable device, the OLED Switch will be a significant upgrade to mine.

So if you mostly/entirely play docked, this upgrade isn't for you, but if you primarily play portable, or split time between the two modes, the OLED Switch is likely a pretty good option.



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Mnementh said:
Otter said:

I think its unlikely it was just made up and snowballed, OLED doesn't equate to better specs and the rumours were actually quite specific and lots of reputable sources touched on it. Eurogamer had their own sources which makes me imagine it was something happening/being prototyped behind the scenes but plans changed. At one point MS was playing with giving Xbox One X a new CPU but it was too expensive.

 I agree though, its on us if we believe rumours will be 100% accurate. Even if they are true at the time of reporting it doesn't mean the company isn't floating various options at that point or that the info isn't outdated.

You instead choose to believe Nintendo decided to just sit on a model with upgraded internal chipset and releases an OLED model without that? Because you believe the rumours?

It might be possible that Nintendo considered a 4K option and chose not to go that way, but some rumours included apparently production of a new model and combined that with 4K. So no, Nintendo hasn't produced 4K units and holds them now back out of spite. So the rumours were wrong.

The report about the OLED model were correct, it’s not just some coincidence that Nintendo happened to be announcing an OLED model right around the same time the report said they would. Plans do change. It’s entirely possible Nintendo planned 4K output but determined that it wasn’t feasible for this model, or some other business or technical reason.



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Mnementh said:
Otter said:

I think its unlikely it was just made up and snowballed, OLED doesn't equate to better specs and the rumours were actually quite specific and lots of reputable sources touched on it. Eurogamer had their own sources which makes me imagine it was something happening/being prototyped behind the scenes but plans changed. At one point MS was playing with giving Xbox One X a new CPU but it was too expensive.

 I agree though, its on us if we believe rumours will be 100% accurate. Even if they are true at the time of reporting it doesn't mean the company isn't floating various options at that point or that the info isn't outdated.

You instead choose to believe Nintendo decided to just sit on a model with upgraded internal chipset and releases an OLED model without that? Because you believe the rumours?

It might be possible that Nintendo considered a 4K option and chose not to go that way, but some rumours included apparently production of a new model and combined that with 4K. So no, Nintendo hasn't produced 4K units and holds them now back out of spite. So the rumours were wrong.

Nintendo of America President Doug Bowser in an interview with The Washington Post was asked about the Nintendo Switch Pro rumors and said the company is always looking at the latest technology and how it can improve gameplay.

"We are always looking at technology and how technology can enhance gameplay experiences," said Bowser. "It’s not technology for technology’s sake."

"It’s how specifically can technology enhance a gameplay experience," he continued. "And then where do you apply that technology? Do you want to apply it on current existing hardware or platforms, or do you want to wait for the next platform? And then what’s the right gameplay experience with that? There’s a host of factors that goes into it, and it’s something we’re always looking at."

Not even a month ago for this article and quotes. And it's like people either didn't read it, or just chose to see what they wanted to see. 'If Xbox and Sony have 4k, then everything must be about 4k, so it's innevitable Nintendo will do 4k sooner than later'.



Shaunodon said:
Otter said:

I mean Nintendo launched Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon & Metroid Returns on 3DS late 2017 after the Switch was already out 

I would bet 2022 is Switch's last year of Nintendo's full focus. By fall 2023 Switch 2 arrives, Switch will still get releases as with the DS/3DS. Only difference now is they will be cross-gen. Looking at you Metroid Prime 4 ;) 

Why would 2022 be it's last full year when we still can't say for certain it's actually peaking? A year ago it certainly wasn't mainstream thought that Switch should still be peaking now.

Even if it's incredibly unlikely to peak for a third year in a row, the fact they already have several confirmed heavy hitters announced and dated for 2022 and beyond, along with some that are surely in the pipeline by now (MARIO KART 9), if they can time the releases right they should be able to minimise the sales drop year-over-year until at least 2024.

Why do people keep assuming Nintendo should want to move away from one of, if not the most successful product they've ever had, as soon as possible? Why would they prioritise holding back BotW2 and MK9 for cross-gen, when they can release them sooner to an already massive install base, while also sustaining Switch sales for years to come?

Several thoughts here:

1. Nintendo themselves have projected 2021 to be the system's peak. We know they are conservative with their projections, but their projections do reflect some of their internal thinking and planning. If they've internally projected a decline this year, we can be sure they are thinking heavily about their next hardware moves. Hardware needs software and so Nintendo actually has to internally commit quite far in advance to releasing a new generation of hardware, as they need to spend 2-3 years developing exclusive software to take advantage of it. They can't just play the waiting game, I don't believe any company does this. 

2. People seem to mainly understand console cycles and motives of companies in terms of units sold, the reality is companies care about $$$$, not units. You can make more money with 2 machines killing it than just one, and they don't have to cannibalize each other. Plenty of long-term Switch owners will be eager to buy new Nintendo hardware in 2023, meanwhile late adopters who are picking a Switch system 6-7 years late are a completely different audience altogether. You cannot treat them as one audience. The Switch OLED omitting any improvements for docked play/specs etc is not a trivial decision imo. It says a lot. 

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Yeah, I rarely play in portable mode, but that's mostly because all my joycons drift like a bitch and I can't even finish some games because of how bad it is. Recently did a thing with a buddy of mine where we both played Mega Man 2 (a classic from our respective childhoods), him docked and me portably in a race, and he destroyed me because I kept dying on any level where precision platforming was required due to the fact that I kept falling off due to the drift.

If the drift isn't fixed, then sorry. I just can't see myself buying this. I don't play portably all that often and when I do I'm constantly fighting with the drift. I pretty much use the Pro controllers exclusively.



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EXACTLY!!!

I am extremely shocked at how fast people started assuming that the next iteration will be coming really quick after being told several times by ALL the headquarters of Nintendo that last year (the fourth) marked the midlife cycle of the siwtch. So we still have 3 years left (starting from the next march) until we can expect a siwitch 2. We wont know anything about it before late 2024/2025.

How the Hell are did things turn so people are expecting it to be released in 2023? Zelda and Metroid aren't good arguments for that, and sales are extremely high to cut switch's performance just for the sake on being on par with the competiton? Is switch expected to experience such a terrible fall in 2022 that it will be replaced in 2023 or 2024? (especially with the line up that is shaping to be quietely interesting for 2022).

Let's hope that those reflections won't be made by youtubers otherwise they'll keep dirtying the internet with a lot of bullshit.