Credit to installbase for the data

Some comparisons

* Estimate

It's wild. Judging by some comments you'd think we had another Wii U situation on our hands.

Where did you get that data from ?

Switch 1 did 816k in November 2017 in the US. Switch 2 did 472k, close to double less.

Okay here is my interpretation of the announcements.
PS5 - 730k
Switch 2 - 480k
Xbox - 126k
Switch 1 and nex sold about 260k

So not too bad for the PS5. For Switch 2 its really shocking simply because the system is so new. Its clearly the price. People compare to Japan but the thing people forget is that Japan is the only country with a cheap version of the Switch 2. The fear is that their launch was severly front loaded. The postive side to this is that you expect Nintendo to cut the price sometime soon. I think this is gonna result in next years sales being much higher.  
And Xbox well it got out sold by PlayStation by almost 6:1... so there is that.

Wow tried reading the thread but its a shitshow, really feels like console warring and concern trolling took over the thread. Might be either certain switch 2 doomer youtubers or their followers.

If the current price of Switch 2 is seen as too steep, then Nintendo really are in big trouble, because AI causing RAM prices to spike means this console is getting more expensive next year, so if the current price is seen as too high to be worth buying, that means sales really will fall of a cliff when tariffs and RAM prices cause a price increase next year.

The Switch 2 will at worse be a big success (100 million~ unit sales). But it does face some serious challenges. Nintendo's low profit margin forecast hints at hardware being sold at no profit. And all of these economic problems including the recent RAM disaster hint at a possible price increase. Trump's tariffs caught Nintendo offguard, and they didn't adjust the price up despite expressing concern. They did some workarounds to diminish the problem, but it's hard to say if they're selling at a profit and what all of that will mean to future prices and profitability.

Sephiran makes some good points (not the Europe one!), but he often exaggerates the outcome. Pretty sure he also did his fair share of "concern trolling" against PS5. He sees early signs, overreacts, and draws conclusions sooner than he should. It's just how some people roll.

Prices may be a real pain in the butt for Nintendo this time. They'll probably struggle to make high profits from hardware and cartridges (compared to Switch 1). And the low digital ratios don't help. I hope this won't be mistaken by some as a Switch 2 doom post. I still expect it to be a huge success and sell around 130 million if not much more, but Switch 1 had a lot of things going for it: High hardware profitability, a cheap $200 varient, cheaper cartridges, 8 years+ lifecycle, COVID boost, etc.

I want onboard the negative wave too.。。。


*clears throat*

Well now that the NS2 has fell off the cliff its time to tap out

1221k

Facts. Since the moment the Switch 2 price was non-announced, that has been the noose around it's neck everywhere except Japan where it's actually priced very well, and which also happens to be the only region where the Switch 2 is still selling great half a year after launch. Outside Japan, Switch 2 has in just half a year gone from record breaking sales to quite poor numbers. Lack of any sort of a serious system-selling games for the first year of course didn't help either. The only reason the sales still look is great overall is because the first couple months were record breaking, the sales the past few months have been down right pedestrian considering there are no supply shortages like Switch had.

We already know Nintendo no longer thinks it ever needs to do price cuts on anything, but if chips are getting more expensive due to demand from AI, if Nintendo actually adopts the PS/Xbox strategy of raising prices instead of lowering prices as a system ages, things are only going to get worse for the system.

This has all been obvious since early April, though plenty of people chose (and still choose) to turn a blind eye and claim everything is perfect simply because the system had record breaking launch sales purely off of Switch-successor hype. But now we see the obvious result of Nintendo's next gen strategy, as Nintendo's weakest region (Europe) is starting to reject the system and go heavily toward the PS5 now that people see Nintendo lost its vision this gen, and the US's entire political/economic situation continues to rapidly deteriorate under the authoritarian regime making people apparently wary to buy any of these high priced systems.

Switch 2 is absolutely starting to look like it is indeed in danger of being mega popular in Japan while declining sharply everywhere else. And this is largely on Nintendo choosing to jack up the prices on everything AND not have a serious lineup ready for the system. Of course the insanity of the US and the AI boom causing stuff to become more expensive is out of their control, but the point is they intentionally put themselves in a very weak position and so these two outside factors are gonna cause real damage which wouldn't have been there if they hadn't been so greedy after the success of the Switch. It happens every time, Sony after the PS2, Nintendo after the Wii and the DS and the Switch. These companies have a hugely popular system and they think they are invincible that inevitably lead them to make seriously bad decisions the following gen that lead to sharp declines.