GTA seems to be a pretty small franchise in Japan, going by Japanese sales its probably smaller than stuff like Pikmin. Something like Splatoon is several leagues above GTA when it comes to popularity in Japan. Its just a totally different gaming market, with different taste than western markets when it comes to games. Western made games in general sell minimal amounts in Japan, which is why Sony has had hard time competing with Nintendo ever since they pivoted to make western style games only.

Vote who hasn't. The new shipment number is 77.8M and the new forecast is 15M for the FY ending next March. I will reset the poll after the next quarter data came out.

This still looks accurate though the modest fiscal year forecast does indicate that a price increase is likely happening this year so the tariff debacle could potentially make it so it's more than just a tad less than the PS4 if it's 2027. Shouldn't do any worse than 110m though.

The PS5 is running behind mostly because of shortages earlier in the system's life. The period of Q4 2021 to Q4 2022 was particularly rough. Sony started to make up for it in 2023, though, with huge restocks in Q1 that year and generally larger shipment quantities that year (22.7M to 19.5M) and last year (20.2M to 19.4M). Q1 of this year also saw the PS5 do better than what the PS4 did in Q1 2018, putting its LTD deficit at only 1.4M, a big reduction from the 5.7M deficit it was at by the end of 2022. If it can beat the 17.7M the PS4 shipped in 2018, it will narrow its deficit even further.

Another opportunity to close the gap would be later in life. While COVID did cause a big surge in PS4 sales in the spring of 2020, Sony clearly wasn't anticipating that level of demand and stock was mostly wiped out before the 2020 holidays, and the PS4 had negligible post-replacement legs. Given the semiconductor situation, Sony was either unwilling or unable to produce more PS4s in any substantial amount and instead did what they could do to meet demand for the PS5, though as mentioned they struggled to meet demand for that system early in its life.

The PS5 likely won't have this problem barring some global crisis in 2027-28 that royally screws the semiconductor market. If it's able to keep up with the PS4 until 2027 or at most have a small deficit, it could narrow that deficit and match the PS4 in lifetime sales. If it closes the gap and starts to pull ahead by the end of next year, it's entirely possible it could get up to the 120M mark, though I doubt it'll get any higher than that.

In any case, the PS5 should end somewhere very close to where the PS4 was, likely in the 115-120M range.

Still see it selling around 120m (therefore, passing PS4) by the end of its life. I can also see PS6 releasing in Holiday 2027. I can see something like this for PS5:

CY 2025: 15.80

CY 2026: 16.50

CY 2027: 6.50

CY 2028: 4.50

CY 2029: 2.50

CY 2030: 1.00

Total lifetime sales would be 121.80m. Could see games like FF7 Remake Part 3 and Spider-Man 3 being released on both PS5 & PS6. Slight bump in 2026 due to an obvious reason.

If the PS5 keeps this up, it might just match or even beat the PS4’s lifetime sales. And honestly, for a console that costs more and had such a rough start, that’s pretty impressive, like a newby beating the champ!

Wow I am really impressed, its been a while |I dont follow hardware sales and I had no idea they were already at 75M units. I guess Xbox almost shutting down helps a lot but still, this is really impressive.

PS5 Ships 80.3M as of 30.06.2025. Vote on the new poll and write your expectations now, with the new shipment data available.

119.6mill

The handheld is probably going to be a PS6 because Sony will want to make it sound cool and modern. But they might just go with "Playstation Portable", the original PSP is too old to be confused with the new handheld.

If the handheld counts as a PS6، I expect the PS5 to finish at around 125-130 million lifetime, because unlike the PS4, several million PS5s may be produced after the launch of the successor.