Hopefully, Nintendo releases a final revision of the original Switch. I'd prefer a Switch SP Lite, but I'd settle for something like the New 2DS or a Lite-style revision with dock compatibility.

In Japan, stock shortages still drive OLED sales, but the Lite shows consistent growth. It will be the one to carry the legacy and offer the lowest price in the coming years.

@RolStoppable @trunkswd I stand corrected regarding PS2 sales then. I was referring to this: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/playstation-history/2000-ps2-psp/

They rounded to the nearest million and since we knew the PS1 sold 102.49, I thought the range for PS2 would've been anywhere between 160 and 161, but based on what you've both shared, it seems like it really could be 160.0-160.1.

Let's first get to 160M, then we will discuss. There are 3 scenarios that might happen in the end.

• Switch doesn't even reach 160M, in which scenario it will be pointless to discuss the exact final PS2 number.
• Switch reaches 160M, and even succeeds in passing the 160.63M production number, to remove every chance of PS2 final number being higher.
• Switch barely passes 160M, with it's last or second to last quarter on the market, before discontinuation, and the debate will forever live, unless Sony then comes out and confirm exact number which is 0.1/0.2/0.3M more than what Switch does (I am saying more, cuz if Sony decides to come out and announce a number, it will surely be more than the Switch, cuz if it's less they won't even come out and announce anything). Or the Switch with it's last breath ends up at exactly 160.0M or between 160.0 and 160.1M, in which case the debates will be fired up even more, than if it finishes anywhere between 160.1 and 160.63M.

that's also what I was going off

Come on Switch 160.64 you can do it!

For the point of this thread I think these are fair scenarios.

I seriously doubt the PS2 final sales reached 160mill anyway - between 158 and 159mill is the most likely and then they rounded up - but I actually don't think this matters to the point of this thread because I doubt the Switch is exceeding 158mill now based off the current sales trajectory. I reckon Switch will stop around the 157 mark and the PS2 will remain as the highest seller.

I feel like if we hit case (iii), then it’s reasonable to just say Switch and PS2 tied. (That or Nintendo continues pumping out Switch units until they simply pass the 160.63mil mark.) The difference of potentially less than 100k seems trivial enough that it shouldn’t make any difference. At that point, Sony and/or Nintendo could just haphazardly ship out 100k extra systems and “(re)claim” the title of “best selling video game hardware.”

(that or Nintendo could finish Switch production by announcing “Switch sold more than 160.01mil units,” which is technically more than Sony’s “more than 160mil” figure.)

Yea, but in that scenario, Sony can easily come out and say " the final shipment number of PS2 is 160.2M " for example, which will be higher then, than the 160.01M, and Nintendo can't answer on that with higher number since they already would've said 160.01M

Verry funny how people seem to think companies cant just lie about sales numbers.
In that regard maybe nintendo is lying to and switch havent even reached 100mill yet, i mean can anyone proof it?

I think sony also counts the PSX and ps2TV as a sold ps2 unit?

I think this is exactly right. sony gave this vague sales figure to give themselves wiggle room for later. there is nothing stopping them from reporting as high as 162 or 163 if they need to.