Legends ZA is the cross-gen Pokémon game. I doubt Gen 10 pairs of game wil be released on the Switch 1

Exactly. If people want to consider the 160.0M number, they should pay atention to the decimal part of number. It's 160.0M+ not 160.1M, so PS2 numbers theoretically lands between 160,000,001 and 160,099,999

well its still got metroid. I know thats not exactly going to push units but at least its something. surely there will be a few other significant releases that may entice people to buy the cheaper system for one game. 

rol has indicated several times since the creation of this thread that switch will do it so that's where i am deriving most of my confidence

@RolStoppable Actually, I would say that "more than 160m" would make the maximum 160,999,999. Similar to how they listed PS1 as "more than 102m", but we know it is 102.49m. I would base it off of the nearest million.

@CourageTCD It's still possible that Gen 10 could be cross-gen as well. I believe that was even hinted at as a possibility in the teraleak (which I believe also hinted at ZA being cross-gen, which came to fruition). Either way, I'm expecting Gen 10 to be either cross-gen or Switch 2 exclusive. Since there is clearly no 3D Mario game this year, they could have 3D Mario for Holiday 2026 and also Gen 10 cross-gen for Holiday 2026, so both systems get something big. And then Switch 2 can get its exclusive core series Pokemon game a little later in its life, which would be beneficial.

@angrypoolman I doubt Metroid will move the needle, but at least it's another feather in Switch's cap (although it is cross-gen and Metroid seems like the type of franchise where most buyers would opt for the higher-end version).

I agree with you on the 160m point. >160m means 161 100% breaks it, not 160.1. its one of the few instances where id say rol was wrong.

Sony lists the PS1 as "more than 102.4m" on their corporate website and since we know that it didn't hit 102.5m, this backs up what I've been saying.

To be honest I think Switch selling 160.1M units would be considered a win. An actual confirmed number should always win and weigh more than a vague "more than 160M" figure where our estimations are just based on assumptions at that point. A confirmed figure should weigh more than an estimation.

However though, none of this may matter if the Switch is unable to get to 160M, which to be honest is gonna be an uphill battle this late if the 4.5M estimations is true and puts the Switch at 156.6M by March 2026, gonna be hard to muster up another 3.5M after that especially with the price increases in the U.S.

My current prediction is 158M, I think even the smallest thing could bring it to 160M tho, but its gonna be hard to do it at its current trajectory.

Yep, I agree. Here is the PS3 image of the production numbers:

About the exact numbers I am 50/50 on that one since yes, for the PS1 they said over 102M when it's actually 102.5M. But for the PSP they said over 80M, when it's actually 82.5M. For the PS3 they wrote over 87M, when it's actually 87.4M, and for the PS4 they wrote over 117M, when it's actually 117.2M. So it's not consistent across all consoles. For the PS1 they left out 500k, for the PSP they left out 2.5M, for the PS3 they left out 400k units, and for the PS4 they left out 200k units more. Since it's confirmed PS2 production units are 160.63M, this means the left out units are less than 630k. PS3, PS4 and PS1 not counted units in that page were all between 200k and 500k. So the shipment/sold units for the PS2 above 160M, can be between 1 and I don't know how many more units, since there is to be some amount for kiosks, demo units and etc. We only have information for the PS3 ones, which were around 750k units (88.15 - 87.4 = ~ 750k). Do the fact that PS2 sold almost double of what PS3 sold plays any role in the number of those kiosks and demo units and they should be more than the PS3 ones? Or is it okay for an older system to have less units between final shipment number and produced one, which would also mean less kiosks, promotional and repair units than a newer system (although with half of the sales)?

Also, PSP not counted units are maybe less than 2.5M since 82.52M is the production units .. which opens different topic here .. VGChartz has PSP sold/shipped units as 82.52M (the production number), but at the same time PS2 and PS3 numbers are not the produced ones (160.63M and 88.15M respectively).@trunkswd ?

https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

Sony on their "Business Data & Sales" page lists sell-in (shipped) to the nearest 100,000 for every console, except for the PS4. PS2 is at 160.0 million, which to me suggests it is below 160.1 million. So it likely barely crossed 160 million.

It would be much easier if Sony was as open as Nintendo when it comes to units shipped. Nintendo provides to the nearest 10,000 every quarter no matter how bad a system is selling (ie Wii U).