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drkohler said:
CosmicSex said:

As stated, Sony has revealed that they have stockpiled ram and are good for the next ficsal at minimum levels. This would infer that we can get an idea for the stockpile based on their PS5 shipment projections for the next Fiscal Year (minimum levels). From this we can also infer that their should not be any price increase related to memory costs. Smart move on their part. No other way to say it.

Sony does not "stockpile memory". Memory goes from the manufacturer to the assembly plants, by preset times and amounts (also called "Just in Time production". Of course Sony had ordered enough memory chips for this fiscal year (probably around 2023 or 2024).

Now memory contracts (or any chip contracts) are very complex structures. They almost invariably contain options for the manufacturer to raise agreed-upon prices at certain preset dates for whatever technical reasons there might be. Of course, whether the manufacturer has drawn the option(s) only Sony knows. "The AI people want our memory more than you" is NOT a legal reason to draw an option (and would likely result in massive fines). 

What this all means for memory prices paid by Sony for this fy consoles is anyone's guess. My guess is not much for this year but maybe real problems for 2027 onwards. Also XBox has cratered so much that they actually might have surplus memory chips due to much lower production numbers than planed.

While it is true they are okay for 2026... keep in mind that this is based on their minimum levels.  This means that if the demand for PS5 exceeds their projections, they could run into an issue sooner which is why they said they are actively negotiating further deals.  The thought is that by the time they run out, they would hope that prices come down.  Right now, we don't really know whats gonna happen.  People are hoping that companies like CXMT can flood the market with cheaper memory and pull down the price but I am not aware of what the ramp up times look like.   All we know for sure is that Sony is not in any immediate danger as far as RAM is concerned.  Check back towards the end of the year.  

Xbox does not have a surplus of memory because we know that they don't have a ton of Xbox's laying around.  Stranger still is the revlation that Microsoft actually produced lower than their capacity for years due to subsidizing costs actually eating profits... which is just wild when you think about it. 



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XtremeBG said:
CosmicSex said:

Seems like a really good estimation. PS5 at 90 million. 2 million shy of PS4 with its biggest some of its biggest games coming this year. And Sony seems insulated from the memory price crunch which is their dumb luck but it won't last forever.

As far as catching the PS4, I think that happens this calendar year, and then we can revisit of total lifetime sales predictions.

Take me up to speed. Why and how Sony is insulated from that memory price crunch ? I must've missed all of this. I know they had some stock pile, or so I read.

I almost forgot in the last reply....

But apparently Sony's CFO recently commented on this and confirmed "the minimum quantity necessary to manage the year end selling season of the next fiscal year". 

Basically the rumor that MLIS claimed (about sony having a years worth of ram supply bought cheap), was backed up by the CFO.


March 2026-March 2027.

Sony have a "prediction" of how many PS5's they plan/think they can sell, until March 2027....... and have enough ram (the main issue, but really all components) on hand/access too, to last them until then.


They got it (either in a stockpile somewhere, or on contract to be made to them, at a low price.)


 

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PAOerfulone said:

I wouldn't be so sure about the PS5 catching the PS4, even with GTA VI coming out.

This holiday season, especially the month of November, showed that the current asking prices of this generation of consoles is just too much for the casual audience. There's a reason why the PS5's Black Friday deals ended up lasting all the way through Christmas, why retailers were discounting PS5 and Switch 2 at $50 off, much to the chagrin of Sony and Nintendo, and why the PS5 Fortnite bundles on Amazon are STILL going for $50 less than MSRP. $500/550/750 for a 5-year-old system is just too big of a pill to swallow for a lot of the casual audience, who at this stage in a console's life, are the ones who still haven't jumped in and bought the system yet. And with seemingly no end in sight to the RAM price surge, (plus the tariffs), it's not out of the question for Sony to raise the price of the PS5 AGAIN. Microsoft has already done it twice. Nintendo already did it for Switch 1 and they're considering it for Switch 2. There's no reason to think Sony won't do it twice themselves. If that happens, then the system will REALLY have a tough hill to climb.

At this point, GTA VI is just about the only thing the PS5 has going in its favor to drive sales and demand. But there's only so much that one game can do in the face of all these detrimental factors.

PS5 is going to surpass lifetime sales of PS4 in the end pretty much no matter what.

PS6 is 90% likely I would say not to come out until late 2028 or beyond. And whenever PS6 comes out (as early as November 2027 or as late as November 2029), the cross-gen period for software will likely be longer than even PS4 to PS5. Not only that, but I think PS5 will still be manufactured more as despite rising costs I do think there will be a bigger price gap between PS5 and PS6 than there was between PS4 Slim and PS5 Digital. The cheapest PS6 SKU will probably be $750-$800, even if it's a while off. PS5 "Slim" will likely be $400-$550 when it is replaced.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
PS5 is going to surpass lifetime sales of PS4 in the end pretty much no matter what.

PS6 is 90% likely I would say not to come out until late 2028 or beyond. And whenever PS6 comes out (as early as November 2027 or as late as November 2029), the cross-gen period for software will likely be longer than even PS4 to PS5. Not only that, but I think PS5 will still be manufactured more as despite rising costs I do think there will be a bigger price gap between PS5 and PS6 than there was between PS4 Slim and PS5 Digital. The cheapest PS6 SKU will probably be $750-$800, even if it's a while off. PS5 "Slim" will likely be $400-$550 when it is replaced.

And so the thing that I said when Sony wrote that PS2 is " one of the best selling consoles " not the best one, because they might have in mind the PS5, just might get true after all. Of course that's a way far shoot now, and I still doubt it. But it isn't impossible for Sony to actually had that in mind, and to do the necessary things in order for that to happen. My expectations are still somewhere around 130M for the PS5. But with the time moving on, and the things around PS5, PS6, the industry, prices, tarrifs, ram situation and everything else, and what you wrote here.. well it's chances become bigger and bigger.



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XtremeBG said:
Wman1996 said:
PS5 is going to surpass lifetime sales of PS4 in the end pretty much no matter what.

PS6 is 90% likely I would say not to come out until late 2028 or beyond. And whenever PS6 comes out (as early as November 2027 or as late as November 2029), the cross-gen period for software will likely be longer than even PS4 to PS5. Not only that, but I think PS5 will still be manufactured more as despite rising costs I do think there will be a bigger price gap between PS5 and PS6 than there was between PS4 Slim and PS5 Digital. The cheapest PS6 SKU will probably be $750-$800, even if it's a while off. PS5 "Slim" will likely be $400-$550 when it is replaced.

And so the thing that I said when Sony wrote that PS2 is " one of the best selling consoles " not the best one, because they might have in mind the PS5, just might get true after all. Of course that's a way far shoot now, and I still doubt it. But it isn't impossible for Sony to actually had that in mind, and to do the necessary things in order for that to happen. My expectations are still somewhere around 130M for the PS5. But with the time moving on, and the things around PS5, PS6, the industry, prices, tarrifs, ram situation and everything else, and what you wrote here.. well it's chances become bigger and bigger.

PS5's best hope as I have said before is PS6 struggling for a PlayStation console (like PS3) and PS5 still selling well (like PS2).

Because even if PS5 is an attractive price on top of PS6 as more liked than early PS3, it's still going to be a battle to pass PS2, more improbable than not. 

130 million units is on the table right now still. Maybe even 140 million. 145 million units or up seems way too high. I still predict about 122 million meaning they're only going to ship about 30 million more units. If I need to update my prediction later this year to more around 128-135 million units, I will. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
PS5's best hope as I have said before is PS6 struggling for a PlayStation console (like PS3) and PS5 still selling well (like PS2).

Because even if PS5 is an attractive price on top of PS6 as more liked than early PS3, it's still going to be a battle to pass PS2, more improbable than not. 

130 million units is on the table right now still. Maybe even 140 million. 145 million units or up seems way too high. I still predict about 122 million meaning they're only going to ship about 30 million more units. If I need to update my prediction later this year to more around 128-135 million units, I will. 

Of course it's an uphill battle for the PS2, and I am still far from calling that. But with time and different circumstances, it can get closer and closer. It depends on really how Sony is managing all of this. If the generation really delay until 2030, and they play 2 price cuts until then, 145 or even 150M don't seem too high.



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Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / JP 2026 / 2026 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Best holiday months / When will the Switch pass 160M? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX / Switch 2

For additional context on top of what we already know about the Ram situation for Sony, it look like all of the SSD's on PS Direct went up in price. This would indicate that they are paying more to produce the units at least for that. The whole digital unit going down to 825 GB from 1TB looks like another well thought out adjustment in hindsight.  This is to say that they probably just balanced the cost instead of raising the price. 



CosmicSex said:

For additional context on top of what we already know about the Ram situation for Sony, it look like all of the SSD's on PS Direct went up in price. This would indicate that they are paying more to produce the units at least for that. The whole digital unit going down to 825 GB from 1TB looks like another well thought out adjustment in hindsight.  This is to say that they probably just balanced the cost instead of raising the price. 

^ this.

And there are still like ~40m active PS4/PS3 users on a monthly basis playing games that need to upgrade to a PS5.
I could see a best case situation where PS5 actually ends up like ~140m before everything is said and done.

As things stand, I'd put money on it making it over 120m lifetime sales.

2026 I think the PS5 will do like 16m+ (normally it would probably be like ~14m (slight drop from this year), but GTA boost effect gives abit)
So early 2027, I think the PS5 will be around ~108m.

Like feel free to quote this next year, come feb 2027, if I'm way off the mark.
And tell me I was wrong.