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Will Switch outsell the DS in the U.S?

Yes 4 19.05%
 
No 17 80.95%
 
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XtremeBG said:
KLXVER said:

Sony will probably soon announce that the PS2 actually sold 60 million in the US...

If they didn't include the units post 155M in those 46.5M then they may announce something like 47.5M or 48M, which will be funny . But either way, Switch is passing those too. I am looking forward for such announcement, since it will be very funny to look at the comments and reactions of people about that.

It would be a lie and Sony knows that. Even their invetors would question their seriosity! Sometime it's getting redicolous. Its like a dying Ferrari still trying to accelerate to the max when they know their engine is rusty and everyone knows it. And this Ferrari is trying to tell fantasy stories how its still the fastest car when Koenigsegg Jesko is already out, outrunning every number this dying Ferrari is trying to coug out of their already dead engine...



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killer7 said:
XtremeBG said:

If they didn't include the units post 155M in those 46.5M then they may announce something like 47.5M or 48M, which will be funny . But either way, Switch is passing those too. I am looking forward for such announcement, since it will be very funny to look at the comments and reactions of people about that.

It would be a lie and Sony knows that. Even their invetors would question their seriosity! Sometime it's getting redicolous. Its like a dying Ferrari still trying to accelerate to the max when they know their engine is rusty and everyone knows it. And this Ferrari is trying to tell fantasy stories how its still the fastest car when Koenigsegg Jesko is already out, outrunning every number this dying Ferrari is trying to coug out of their already dead engine...

These figures are from Circana not Sony, so they can't just tell Circana to "lie".

Last edited by ShadowLink93 - 1 hour ago

Nope, i'm expecting 49M to 51M when all is said and done unless there is some crazy price cuts down the line. For other current platforms i think 36M to 40M for PS5 and 22M to 23M for XBS.

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XtremeBG said:

2. My claim is a fact, not just a claim. It is January - October 2023 vs January - October 2024. You don't need to get to articles, (those ones are before adjustments keep in mind). You can just go and see the hardware by date tool on the website and compare the period on monthly bases when you add up the months for each period. There, the numbers are always up to date and adjusted. I do this often since I run sales threads, and I know. So if you go there and check you will see that US sales from Jan - Oct 2023 is exactly 3M, for this year it is 1.7M. It's simple as that. If you throw in November the difference gets to 3.6M vs 2.3M. About your calculation for the Black Friday, last November the US sales for the month were till 26th, so black Friday was included. This year they are till 30th November, which again Black Friday included. No need to exclude it from the calculations. Of course with November included the drop becomes smaller since this November is flat with the last year (yes flat, 17k difference in US can't really be called up year on year, well technically it can, but it's almost nothing when you look at the full number 573k vs 590k, it's essentially the same). About the drop overall for the year, I agree it will be less in the end since November is flat, so with that the drop per year gets to 36%. December drop also may be less than the previous months. If your 25% is true, then the year in US should finish at 3.7M. So you expect 1.4M in December in US alone ? When 2023 finished short of 1.3M ? Very doubtful.

There's a hardware-by-date tool? Since when did this exist?? Lol. Where do I find this? And yeah, 3.6mil v 2.3mil does sound about right when adding Black Friday back into last year's figures. So, that'd be somewhere around 35% drop YoY, though I do see where you're getting that near 45-50% drop YoY figure from (you were talking about through October, not November...misread that detail). Adjusting my estimates, I'd see maybe 30-35% drop YoY for NSW in US as being possible. I think 25% would be a little unexpected, though NSW has certainly done far less expected things, so wouldn't count out the possibility entirely.



ShadowLink93 said:

Nope, i'm expecting 49M to 51M when all is said and done unless there is some crazy price cuts down the line. For other current platforms i think 36M to 40M for PS5 and 22M to 23M for XBS.

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This! I needed.

Thank you. I searched for you and that table. And you just jumped by yourself when I asked in a previous post.

Just one question, those are calendar years right ? or fiscal ?

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I agree with others that it definitely won't surpass DS in the US. While I do believe the Switch will pass the DS worldwide eventually, I think it will fall short in the US with a still impressive probably 50m.



XtremeBG said:

This! I needed.

Thank you. I searched for you and that table. And you just jumped by yourself when I asked in a previous post.

Just one question, those are calendar years right ? or fiscal ?

Yes they are calendar years, which is why Switch has high year 1 sales (March release) and most other console's like Wii (late November release) have low year 1 sales.



First off, PS2 is still the best-selling dedicated home console in the US, and nothing is going to change that soon. Second, I think the Switch has the ability to become the best selling handheld IF Nintendo finally drops the price and doesn't launch its successor until later in the year. Otherwise, it's going to be difficult.