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Forums - Sales - Famitsu Sales: Week 48, 2024 (Nov 25 - Dec 01)

Half of all sales from the top 10 publishers is seriously impressive, really goes to show just how Nintendo dominates in Japan.
That Mario Party Jamboree has already made it's way to #2 for the year, second only to the megaton Dragon Quest, is also commendable.

It makes me happy to see It Takes Two on Switch squeeze in there at the bottom of the top 50; not bad for a Western release.



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S-E has the #1 spot in the top 50. That makes it even more impressive that Nintendo has over 50% of the sales (and the Pokemon Co is not included in that percentage). Most of those Nintendo sales are simply from evergreens. Nintendo doesn't have to do much at this point and it still makes a ton of money on the Switch.

This also illustrates why it is not at all in Nintendo's best interest to kill off the Switch when its successor releases. All of those evergreens are still paying out. The development costs on those evergreen games have already been paid. It's in Nintendo's best interest to keep this gravy train rolling for as long as possible. Price cuts, bundles, Nintendo selects, releasing ports and budget titles, etc.... There's a lot of strategies they could take, but it's definitely in their best interest to keep the Switch alive for as long as possible.



CourageTCD said:
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Top 30: https://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-software-sales-11-25-24-12-1-24-top-30/

1. [NSW] Super Mario Party Jamboree – 56,032 / 532,639
2. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake – 30,730 / 742,918
3. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 12,766 / 6,077,698
4. [PS5] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake – 11,909 / 212,853
5. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru – 11,477 / 1,173,002
6. [NSW] Mario & Luigi: Brothership – 11,380 / 99,909
7. [NSW] Minecraft – 8,869 / 3,690,914
8. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 8,217 / 7,968,172
9. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 6,853 / 5,627,325
10. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports – 6,839 / 1,470,570
11. [NSW] Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom – 6,234 / 312,754
12. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet – 5,297 / 5,445,922
13. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure – 4,788 / 3,660,650
14. [NSW] The Exit 8 / Platform 8 – 4,529 / NEW
15. [NSW] Hakoniwa Kaitaku Hamster to Taiyou no Sato – 4,431 / NEW
16. [NSW] Madou Monogatari: Fia and the Mysterious School – 3,954 / NEW
17. [NSW] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven – 3,897 / 104,474
18. [NSW] Super Mario RPG – 3,590 / 503,251
19. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythm Festival – 3,370 / 368,025
20. [NSW] Disney Music Parade Encore – 2,996 / 12,256
21. [NSW] Bang Bang Bandits – 2,994 / NEW
22. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 – 2,879 / 1,056,508
23. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder – 2,801 / 1,947,990
24. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2024-2025 – 2,794 / 321,426
25. [NSW] Irem Collection Vol. 2 – 2,616 / NEW
26. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 Special Price – 2,513 / 208,455
27. [NSW] Pikmin 4 – 2,497 / 1,260,984
28. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! – 2,459 / 3,043,442
29. [NSW] Splatoon 3 – 2,380 / 4,384,169
30. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 – 2,325 / 46,992

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I really wish M&L Brothership did better in the sales department

The topic was already explored in the last few weeks, but it seemingly is pretty close in sales or above Dream Team at this point. 

Nonetheless, it's always been the least popular of the 3 RPG series. So there isn't much else to tell on that front. 

Looks like the game actually stabilized and slightly went up this week which is a rare thing to do for RPGs in general so it's at least bound to surpass 100K physically. 

Sales in the west have always been historically more important for the series anyway so let's see how it gets over this holiday first before continuing with a periodic dooming.

Meantime, Super Mario Party Jamboree actually over performing the previous game is actually wild in a sense considering this is the third game in the series to release. Game is popular though and is the best received one in the series, so the public was more than eager to experience it !



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

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Price cuts, bundles, Nintendo selects, releasing ports and budget titles, etc.... There's a lot of strategies they could take, but it's definitely in their best interest to keep the Switch alive for as long as possible.

Absolutely. Unfortunately Nintendo has shown no desire to do such things. Nintendo often makes bizarre decisions. I think if they were gonna do stuff like HW price cuts and Nintendo Selects, they would have already as sales have slowed a lot last year and this year outside of the like 3 month Mario movie / TotK boost. Most likely Switch hardware sales are gonna drop to barely anything when S2 releases, and I doubt Nintendo will be making anything for the Switch from that point onward, unless they just have a late game or two that go cross gen. I could see some old ports hit both Switch and the successor, like say if they finally bring us Prime 2 and 3, or WW and TP, but other than that I don't expect Nintendo to do anything to keep pushing Switch HW or SW sales.

More likely than not their strategy is going to be no strategy. Just let Switch die out quickly due to cost similarity with the successor, take whatever software revenue they can keep getting from Switch with no effort, and do nothing to go after more sales from the Switch audience.



Slownenberg said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

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Price cuts, bundles, Nintendo selects, releasing ports and budget titles, etc.... There's a lot of strategies they could take, but it's definitely in their best interest to keep the Switch alive for as long as possible.

Absolutely. Unfortunately Nintendo has shown no desire to do such things. Nintendo often makes bizarre decisions. I think if they were gonna do stuff like HW price cuts and Nintendo Selects, they would have already as sales have slowed a lot last year and this year outside of the like 3 month Mario movie / TotK boost. Most likely Switch hardware sales are gonna drop to barely anything when S2 releases, and I doubt Nintendo will be making anything for the Switch from that point onward, unless they just have a late game or two that go cross gen. I could see some old ports hit both Switch and the successor, like say if they finally bring us Prime 2 and 3, or WW and TP, but other than that I don't expect Nintendo to do anything to keep pushing Switch HW or SW sales.

More likely than not their strategy is going to be no strategy. Just let Switch die out quickly due to cost similarity with the successor, take whatever software revenue they can keep getting from Switch with no effort, and do nothing to go after more sales from the Switch audience.

This isn't exactly concording with their statements on the matter. With the inflation of the last years, the actual fact the Switch hasn't gone up in price could be considered a "price cut" in itself and not withstanding that their main strategy is using the added value of bundled software to drive the hardware sales. 

Now is the strategy paying the dividends they expected without having to hurt or discounting too much of their software or base console price permanently just so they could get a quick boost ? Don't know, that's for them to answer after the fiscal quarter is over. 

Considering how their software deals during the big holiday sales are panning usually while still keeping a relatively good price. I think their current strategy is suiting them well. Otherwise, they'd have made a change by now.



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Mar1217 said:
Slownenberg said:

Absolutely. Unfortunately Nintendo has shown no desire to do such things. Nintendo often makes bizarre decisions. I think if they were gonna do stuff like HW price cuts and Nintendo Selects, they would have already as sales have slowed a lot last year and this year outside of the like 3 month Mario movie / TotK boost. Most likely Switch hardware sales are gonna drop to barely anything when S2 releases, and I doubt Nintendo will be making anything for the Switch from that point onward, unless they just have a late game or two that go cross gen. I could see some old ports hit both Switch and the successor, like say if they finally bring us Prime 2 and 3, or WW and TP, but other than that I don't expect Nintendo to do anything to keep pushing Switch HW or SW sales.

More likely than not their strategy is going to be no strategy. Just let Switch die out quickly due to cost similarity with the successor, take whatever software revenue they can keep getting from Switch with no effort, and do nothing to go after more sales from the Switch audience.

This isn't exactly concording with their statements on the matter. With the inflation of the last years, the actual fact the Switch hasn't gone up in price could be considered a "price cut" in itself and not withstanding that their main strategy is using the added value of bundled software to drive the hardware sales. 

Now is the strategy paying the dividends they expected without having to hurt or discounting too much of their software or base console price permanently just so they could get a quick boost ? Don't know, that's for them to answer after the fiscal quarter is over. 

Considering how their software deals during the big holiday sales are panning usually while still keeping a relatively good price. I think their current strategy is suiting them well. Otherwise, they'd have made a change by now.

I'm very sure that Nintendo will make pricecuts on the Switch an bring out "Nintendo Selects" (or at least have longer periods where top titles are discounted) but maybe they wait until the Switch 2 is out. They are not really in a hurry. 



Slownenberg said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

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Price cuts, bundles, Nintendo selects, releasing ports and budget titles, etc.... There's a lot of strategies they could take, but it's definitely in their best interest to keep the Switch alive for as long as possible.

Absolutely. Unfortunately Nintendo has shown no desire to do such things. Nintendo often makes bizarre decisions. I think if they were gonna do stuff like HW price cuts and Nintendo Selects, they would have already as sales have slowed a lot last year and this year outside of the like 3 month Mario movie / TotK boost. Most likely Switch hardware sales are gonna drop to barely anything when S2 releases, and I doubt Nintendo will be making anything for the Switch from that point onward, unless they just have a late game or two that go cross gen. I could see some old ports hit both Switch and the successor, like say if they finally bring us Prime 2 and 3, or WW and TP, but other than that I don't expect Nintendo to do anything to keep pushing Switch HW or SW sales.

More likely than not their strategy is going to be no strategy. Just let Switch die out quickly due to cost similarity with the successor, take whatever software revenue they can keep getting from Switch with no effort, and do nothing to go after more sales from the Switch audience.

I rarely have difficulty figuring out Nintendo's reasoning.  I do not think their decisions as bizarre.  Mostly you just have to keep in mind they are a fiscally conservative company that focuses on profit.  When you keep that in mind, most of their decisions make sense.  Keeping the Switch alive for a long time makes sense for them, but they are going to do it in a low effort way.

Sony is actually acting more bizarre lately.  For example, they try to kill off PS4 hardware in 2020, and yet keep releasing crossgen titles many years later.  I find that bizarre.  Are they trying to kill off PS4 or keep it going?  There really isn't a consistent strategy there.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

I rarely have difficulty figuring out Nintendo's reasoning. I do not think their decisions as bizarre. Mostly you just have to keep in mind they are a fiscally conservative company that focuses on profit. When you keep that in mind, most of their decisions make sense. Keeping the Switch alive for a long time makes sense for them, but they are going to do it in a low effort way.

Sony is actually acting more bizarre lately. For example, they try to kill off PS4 hardware in 2020, and yet keep releasing crossgen titles many years later. I find that bizarre. Are they trying to kill off PS4 or keep it going? There really isn't a consistent strategy there.

What do you think about the DS life after 2009/2010 ? and Nintendo's actions then ?



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

I rarely have difficulty figuring out Nintendo's reasoning. I do not think their decisions as bizarre. Mostly you just have to keep in mind they are a fiscally conservative company that focuses on profit. When you keep that in mind, most of their decisions make sense. Keeping the Switch alive for a long time makes sense for them, but they are going to do it in a low effort way.

Sony is actually acting more bizarre lately. For example, they try to kill off PS4 hardware in 2020, and yet keep releasing crossgen titles many years later. I find that bizarre. Are they trying to kill off PS4 or keep it going? There really isn't a consistent strategy there.

What do you think about the DS life after 2009/2010 ? and Nintendo's actions then ?

Nintendo had released almost all of the major software on the DS before 2009 (actually before 2007).  This is because Nintendo's thinking at the time was that development resources were scarce.  They would focus on DS titles for a few years, then Wii, then 3DS, then Wii U.  During 2009-2010, the Wii was getting the last of its major releases.  This meant internally new software development was focused on 3DS titles during 2009-2010.  (And in hindsight we can see that there were development delays that screwed up the launch of both the 3DS and Wii U, but I digress.)

So what did all of this mean for the DS?  Basically they let Gamefreak release the last of their titles, and then they killed the DS off quickly.  Four platforms were too many for Nintendo to support at once.  They didn't want to support the DS anymore after the 3DS released.  On top of that their momentum tanked.  Look at when the DS's major titles released.  Outside of Pokemon games, all of their other major titles released from 2004-2006.  After that Nintendo relied on Gamefreak and third parties to keep the DS going.  Once you get to 2010, the DS had actually been receiving minor first party support for several years.  It shouldn't be surprising that momentum on the DS died as quickly as it did there at the end.

The Switch's situation is the exact opposite of this.  Nintendo will only have two platforms to support in 2025-2026 (and maybe 2027+).  Almost all of their development resources are going to Switch 2.  However expect some minor efforts going to Switch for the next few years like ports or new low budget titles.  I also expect them to come up with some incentive for people to continue buying Switch, like at the very least software bundled in with hardware.  They are still making a ton of profit off of the Switch compared to the amount of investment they have to put into it at this point.  Those evergreens still make a ton of money.  Supporting two platforms during the transition years is a lot easier than supporting 4, so they are going to want to keep the Switch going for as long as it can make them good money.