Well we don't yet know the price of the Switch 2. When I predicted a $350 barebones version and $400 standard version about 3 years ago, it was deemed "expensive". Now it's looking likely that $400 is the base price.

Sony is arguably the weakest among the three, because their software is not strong enough to future proof them. I gave Sony shit myself for pricing the PS5 too high, but it's evident that it wasn't their fault as they are apparently still losing money (or barely breaking even) on hardware. So either chip makers are the despotic assholes, or the manufacturing process is not going down in cost and it's not anyone's fault.

Things were looking great for the PS5 early on when it was reported that they started making money on the disk edition, but everything took a turn for the worse over time. They should target lower specs for the base PS6 and release an expensive handheld version to boost sales, otherwise for the first time since PS3, I expect PS6 sales to go down significantly. Consoles have an aging audience and will not last forever.

Many people could not see its risky launching PS3 in 2007 either.😉

So many people here believe in the PS6 will be successfull no matter what they do and be Nr.1. PS3 was not. PS5 is not (Switch), the PSP and the Vita wheren't either. Many people spell doom for Switch 2 because every 2nd console sold worse than the 1st or flopped. That is true but what if i said: Every 3rd Playstation lost its generation? If they launch in 2028 it might already be too late anything later than that is not going to happen. If Nintendo goes all in, cuts Switch 2 super short they launch Switch 3 in 2030 and it would be more powerfull than expected, Sony could never wait that long! All rumors point to 2027.

I am not "downplaying a console we don't know nothing about". Damn IF the PS6 really had a DD i would get it even for 2000€!! Even if i could take a 5000€ PC as a present instead!! (So much for my "jabs at Playstation😉). But as it seems like now, chances are getting lower every year.*

Yes Sony discontinues rewritable BDs. And here is my question: What is a BD movie/ game disc BEFORE a game is WRITTEN on it?Correct: A REWRITABLE Disc. So where do you write your games on if you discontinue the format you normally use for that purpus? Movie/ gamediscs don't fall from the sky. If it still played Discs then yes it will be the last one! Here I am with you! I am a total enemy of digitalisation everyone knows that, otherwise i would be PC all in wich i am certenly not! So i would need to say that PS6- PS10 (patent from Sony) would be all discs 100% with the PS10 having an outside chance of using the AD (Archival Disc)! *But when 70%+ of your games get sold digitally and Sony really waited till 2028 or even longer where would be this number by then? For sure that Trend won't be reversed. So many people here are talking about GTAVI! This game will (most likley) have a record breaking launch and could boost this digital trend even more! If Sony waited till 2028 and MS till 2027 with their new consoles, MS will be 100% digital next gen, no argue about that, but digital game sales on PS5 won't be lower than 85% maybe even 90% or more! PS6 won't support a DD for 10%- 20% of buyers! You see what i mean?

No one thought the PS5 or PS6 would sell more than Switch or Switch 2 (no real opinions on Switch 2 vs PS6 yet lol). Playstation is constantly underestimated. You keep turning everything into a "Nintendo vs Sony" topic. What actually happened though was that nearly everyone thought the PS4 (which was also underestimated until like 2019 where no one knew production would fall off a cliff too soon) would beat the Switch 1. Switch is probably the most underestimated platform of all time by Nintendo fans and haters alike, and the main reason for that is Nintendo having a weak previous generation where their combined consoles couldn't match the Wii alone. People are obsessed about the past.

Most gamers just don't see Sony making PS3 level blunders, and that's not something to get upset over. Sony and Nintendo don't care about when the other is launching their consoles. They're not direct competitors and are able to grow with minimal impact on the other. That might change in the future but it's not yet a source of major concern.

No one is spelling doom on Switch 2, you're just not happy that the sentiment isn't particularly positive. But as I said looking at past trends is meaningless without studying the details, so I wouldn't focus too much on the "2nd console" thing. But it's okay to make early predictions. Early predictions are more challenging and fun because it includes predicting basics like pricing.

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Xbox will launch a year to 6 months early imo (late 2026).
Nintendo switch 2 will launch late summer 2025.

^unless sony pushes portal heavily and makes a portal that can DL everything up to ps4 gen to compete with handheld market, I see those 2 starting to take away sales from PS. Although.... If sony had the balls to lose money, they can drop ps5 to $349/$399 and increase their sales. I expect ps6 to be a minor spec upgrade to focus on handheld/console market similar to switch. Probably ps5 pro ish with better CPU/RAM/efficiency. And a 2027 release, and or late 2026. 

There are some points of you i'd like to adress: I'd start with a question: If I told you back in october 2016 when we saw the first Switch teaser that this system will last longer without a sucessor than any other console before (even the mighty Xbox 360) only trailling behind the Game Boy, wouldn't you have called that prediction "bold"? If I told you that the PS5 (without knowing even things like Covid, Inflation through the war in ukraine, the chip shortage...) would never outsell the Switch and the PS4 got "toasted" less less than 6 years after it launched? You would have not called my prediction bold but "crazy" or "wishfull thinking". 

2nd: Nobody expected the PS4 falling off a cliff. Nobody expected PS4 production to be discontinued in early 2022. PS4 was the first Playstation (expect handheld) to be discontinued less than 10 years after launch. PS1 was 12 years old, PS2 was 13 when discontinued, PS3 was 10,5 years old and PS4 was a bit over 8 years old (3DS 10 years- longest produced gaming system of Gen 9- NOBODY expected that!!). People say, generations last longer, but if you look at the production cycles, the OPPOSITE happens since PS3. They last SHORTER! 

I explained it multiple times but people do not WANT to accept the fact, that Playstation and Nintendo are in direct competition. They are compared directly here on vgchartz, they are sold in the same area in shops, both play games physical and digital, this nonsense started when the PS3 was loosing to the Wii. But tell me: Take the game awards: Why are Nintendo and Sony games in the SAME cathegories? Astro Bot became GOTY 2024. In this cathegory Echoes Of Wisdom was nominated as well! So they compete DIRECTLY with each other!! Astro Bot is comparable to Mario- thats an undeniable fact! Why are people refusing so hard that tey are comparable? Only because Nintendo's game sales are higher? 

What "sentiment isn't particularly positive"? Again its the OPPOSITE: Reactions all around the Internet where overwhelming! The unveil video even surpassed the PS5 unveil video in viewers! There are very few doubts (if the Joy Con 2 mechanism is good quality but thats basically it)! Nobody wants a PS5+ power from a handheld. Its a PS4+ power in handheld mode and something PS4Pro+ power in Dock! Thats what most people expected and they got it. So whats the problem?

I do hope i adressed your points in a way you can understand them. 

Nintendo were on their own about the console generation and timing since the Wii, and I think neither Microsoft or Sony are making their decisions about when to launch next gen on when Nintendo releases it. So I think Switch 2 launch is irrelevant for them in context of the time of releasing their hardware. 

Microsoft aren't really a threat anymore, and unlike 20 years ago, I don't think Sony will care much about them as well, when it comes to the time of releasing the next gen.

Also everyone talks how lately games and game development has gone from 1-2 years to 5-6-7 years, and has gotten so much expensive than before, that's also why we have 1/3 if not less of the games for the same period of time compared to any of the previous generations. And on top of that you are saying Sony will launch their next gen just 2 years after their PS5 Pro ? In a time where there are no games, and the development takes so much time, where we can't have a proper gen like before and are needed something like 10 years, for the generation to have finished form of console generation, in terms of games, both quantity and quality, you are saying PS6 will release just 2 years after the PS5 Pro ? When even back in 2016, this state of gaming was so much better and closer to what have been about the last couple of generations in terms of development and software, they will now risk it, and release almost barely any improvement (since even GPUs now have bare improvements over previous gens and they too started lifecycles of 2+ years, which were always around 1 years) ? Absolutely not. I am more inclined to believe and vote that the generation will prolong up until 2030 (something that is needed more than ever now or at least it would make sense more than ever), than PS6 releasing in 2026, and with that shorten the whole gen.

Your entire first paragraph is pointless. Switch is arguably the most underestimated console ever. Now what? Move on bro. People can't read the future and will misjudge different products all the time. Wii U was massively overestimated early on, are we going to talk about that forever? Monster Hunter World is like the most underestimated video game of all time, and got an ungoldy amount of trolling from Nintendo fans, but nobody talks about it anymore. We move on.

2nd paragraph: PS4 discontinuation forced it to "underperform" relative only to late (2018/2019~) expectations. But it sustained its popularity via engagement, software support and sales better than any previous console. We can't say much about how Sony will handle the next generational transition bearing in mind how this one went. I'm afraid I can't add anything of value to this and neither can you.

3rd: You conflate "no competition" with "no direct competition". PC is currently the bigger hurdle to Sony's growth than Switch is, and it's also generally considered "indirect competition" for logical reasons. Switch and Playstation launch in different times and target different prices, and they keep growing together. They do compete to some extent and the difference between hybrid and traditional home console will shrink over the years. But at the moment, they don't have a significant impact on one another. We know nothing about the PS6 down to pricing and form factor.

4th: It was literally you who claimed people were spelling doom on the Switch 2. If you feel the sentiment is positive enough, then stop complaining!

Companies can still purchase rewritable discs from other vendors. You're being overly paranoid about this. 

There's not much to discuss here; I think the PS6 will have a disc drive and it's probably going to be the last Sony console that can play physical games. And that's all speculation based on nothing, really. Feel free to disagree.

Yes. If the PS6 really used discs when it most likley launches in 2027 it will be the last one! But doubts about a DD even in Sony's Gen 10 don't come from nowhere: Nobody can disagree that 70%+ of all games are sold digital on PS5 right now! Lets say Sony really is dumb enough waiting till 2029 or even 2030 (i do not even know why people wish for this to begin with but many where complaining when the Xbox 360 and the Switch lasted 8 years+). If they wait that long and Nintendo drops Switch 3 in the same year. Sony cannot do anything else but react! Sony is not the immortal Super Hero some people want it to be! But in 2029 or even 2030 85%+ will be digital, like i said a trend that won't magically reverse. What do you expect Sony to do? Add a DD for <15% of all costumers? Its like making a sucessor to the Vita using physical games? Again who tells you that PS6 won't be a hybrid as it is the Switch, wich will guarantee it to be digital only! Sony won't use cardridges as 80%+ was digital already on PSV.