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Kyuu on 17 February 2025
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killer7 said:
Kyuu said:

I mean you're just constantly complaining and taking jabs at Sony/Playstation and its fans and I didn't notice you doing anything remotely similar against other fanbases or active Playstation haters, let alone weirdos from the past lol. You seem very invested in the whole Nintendo vs Sony thing. You couldn't even acknowledge that prices and pricedrops matter (because it makes the expensive PS5 look good), you may as well give Nintendo a call and inform them that they would be 100% fine with an $600 Switch 2 and that it won't need any pricedrops.

Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and Valve are each doing what works for them. Nintendo are self-sufficient kings. Microsoft is still trying to find its new place and will settle soon enough, they are comfortably the biggest console/PC publisher (only rivaled indirectly by Tencent when mobile gaming is accounted for), they got the best gaming rental service, and it won't matter that their next Xbox is reduced to a small console because it's a tiny part of their new ecosystem.

But of course anything can happen and the unexpected is guaranteed. Phil Spencer could get replaced with someone who wants to make Xbox hardware/platform relevant again. Sony might pull a PS3 and make the worst decisions imaginable. Nintendo may be forced to launch an expensive Switch 2 because Nvidia is being a bitch again. A price-dropped Switch 1 with decent crossgen support could hurt an expensive Switch's 2 early years. The possibilities are endless, but provided nothing crazy happens, all major players should be fine.

Edit: The biggest gaming entity could still be Tencent even when mobile gaming isn't considered. It's difficult to make comparisons when everyone is doing their own thing.

I agree with everything you say. If you read my posts i charge every gaming system by what it is not by its publisher. Like i said the WiiU was dead from the day it was unveiled. A simple provokation against its most loyal fans! I never understood the critics in the Gamecube because it had everything going for it: More powerfull than PS2, a good libary of games, Resident Evil exclusive (despite the betray of Part 4), MK and the tipical games... yet people hated it. The old Xbox was the most powerfull one but it was too expensive for that time. Talking about that, yes price drops might help a bit but not in a way that places in a generation would be changed. If so, the Gamecube should have been the absolute Nr.1 in gen 6 but we know how it ended. There where enough talks in gen 7 how PS3 would rush over the Wii when it gets cut in price. In europe it got as low as 189€, yet it did not pass the Wii WW. Yes price cuts can help keeping a decline more stable but it won't make your consoles sales skyrocket. A 99€ Gamecube (PS2/Xbox 299€) did not set the world on fire as well as a 99€ Street PSP (DS 149€). You see i do critizise other companies as well. One of the companies i critizise the most are EA because they release the same game with basically no changes (expect a next gen arrives) every year. I am talking about Football FC (former Fifa). In europe its some sort of pandemic, also Fartnite (no matter wich plattform).

As with pretty much everything in "life" and not just gaming, it's never about a single factor. And this takes us back to when I asked why you thought a 2028 launch would be suicidal for PS6. Dreamcast launched with a 16 month headstart against the PS2, it had great graphics for its time and a strong library of games and yet the PS2 buried it and ended Sega's hardware business. Headstart/timing (like pricing, exclusives, 3rd party support, services, specs and features, form factor, marketing, and brand power) is important... but it's just one factor in a complex equation. So by itself, a headstart doesn't tell us anything. The same goes for "pricing", but PS5 is a confirmed sales monster, so we already know that most factors are fulfilled and only price and exclusives (relative to past generations) are holding it back. You can make the price argument for the Switch as well, it is available at a very cheap $200, but the more popular version still has room for effective pricecuts even 8 years after launch.

I can see why you think it's "risky" to launch the PS6 in 2028. Sony itself might freak out and rush the PS6 to contain any potential threat. But unless Microsoft reverses everything they've been saying and doing for a while, a 2026 Xbox launch shouldn't really be a threat, let alone kill a 2028 PS6. Playstation and Xbox are no longer comparable. If Sony doesn't mind letting Nintendo have a 2, 3 or 4 year "headstart", they shouldn't worry about Xbox having a 1-2 year headstart either. Something dramatic has to happen for Xbox to truly be a threat. Microsoft doesn't seem interested in competing with Sony anymore. They're more interested in using Playstation's popularity to maximize software sales, and this is becoming clearer on the daily.

Last edited by Kyuu - on 17 February 2025