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Forums - Sales - Spain Sales: Week 48, 2025 (Nov 24 - Nov 30) [Black Friday Week]

Sephiran said:

PS5 will likely sell 3-4 times more than Switch 2 in Europe during November. It will be interesting to see if PS5 is so strong in Europe this year that it comfortably outsells Switch 2 in December as well, looks like it based on that huge November advantage.

Switch 1 peak November in Europe was 1.03m, PS5 peak November in Europe was 1.95m last year. PS5 tripling Switch 2 this month in Europe is possible, as Switch 1 averaged around 650k for Nov EU sales, but not guaranteed. Think 4x would be very unlikely though. Switch 2 has already been seeing some pretty significant discounts and deals though so for a launch year November it might do a lot better than expected.

Nintendo is heavily weighted towards December though compared to PS. Switch 1 peaked at 1.80m for EU December, whereas PS5's best EU December is 1.35m. Nintendo always sells much more in December than November and PS the opposite. 

Switch 2 winning December is certainly possible. Family's getting Switch's for Christmas is massive for Nintendo.



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Zippy6 said:
Sephiran said:

PS5 will likely sell 3-4 times more than Switch 2 in Europe during November. It will be interesting to see if PS5 is so strong in Europe this year that it comfortably outsells Switch 2 in December as well, looks like it based on that huge November advantage.

Switch 1 peak November in Europe was 1.03m, PS5 peak November in Europe was 1.95m last year. PS5 tripling Switch 2 this month in Europe is possible, as Switch 1 averaged around 650k for Nov EU sales, but not guaranteed. Think 4x would be very unlikely though. Switch 2 has already been seeing some pretty significant discounts and deals though so for a launch year November it might do a lot better than expected.

Nintendo is heavily weighted towards December though compared to PS. Switch 1 peaked at 1.80m for EU December, whereas PS5's best EU December is 1.35m. Nintendo always sells much more in December than November and PS the opposite. 

Switch 2 winning December is certainly possible. Family's getting Switch's for Christmas is massive for Nintendo.

Given that Japan as of yet usually have stronger Switch 2 months than Europe, if Japan is around 500-550k sales for November, Europe could maybe match that for November. 1M could happen in Japan for December, which would based on the trend of Japan being a bigger market for Switch 2 as of yet put Europe at 800-900k Switch 2 sales for December.



Geralt99 said:
trunkswd said:

Good week for PS5 and Switch 2. 

PS5 is down about 9% compared to our estimates for Black Friday 2024. Switch 1 and Xbox Series are down ~80%+ year-on-year compared to our estimates. There was also no boost for Xbox Series despite it being Black Friday week. The lack of any discounts and the price increase this year have killed Xbox sales in at least mainland Europe. 

I'm expecting PS5 to be +/-10% of last year for Europe for the month of November. 

PS5 is down during the black friday week but up significantly the week prior compared to 2024.

PS5 sales-

18th to 24th Nov 2024- 29000 units

25th nov to dec 1st 2024- 71000 units

2 week Total- 100,000 units

17th to 23rd Nov 2025- 41000 units

24th to 30th nov 2025- 65000 units

2 week total- 105,000 units.

So yeah, it may be down by 9% for black fiday week but up 5% with the prior week combined. 

Interesting.



Zippy6 said:
Switch 1 peak November in Europe was 1.03m, PS5 peak November in Europe was 1.95m last year. PS5 tripling Switch 2 this month in Europe is possible, as Switch 1 averaged around 650k for Nov EU sales, but not guaranteed. Think 4x would be very unlikely though. Switch 2 has already been seeing some pretty significant discounts and deals though so for a launch year November it might do a lot better than expected.

Nintendo is heavily weighted towards December though compared to PS. Switch 1 peaked at 1.80m for EU December, whereas PS5's best EU December is 1.35m. Nintendo always sells much more in December than November and PS the opposite. 

Switch 2 winning December is certainly possible. Family's getting Switch's for Christmas is massive for Nintendo.

Actually the strongest December of PS5 was 1.39M.

Also PS4 had stronger Decembers than that, peaking at 1.82M in 2016, which is stronger than Switch's 1.8M.

I won't be surprised if this December PS5 hit it's record for that month in Europe, passing the 1.39M number.

Also that trend where PS sells more in November, started just recently, from 2023.

With PS4 and even PS5 up until 2023, December was always the stronger month.

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XtremeBG said:
Panicradio said:

All these great PS5 deals are probably (sadly) a hint at those upcoming RAM price hikes.

The first period of years for the current-gen couldn't have been worse due to COVID already. And in 2026, with GTA6 finally on the horizon, we will probably see another adjustment in RRP.

What could have been an outstanding gen in terms of hardware sales, was facing many different factors ranging from a pandemic, tariffs and now a costly battle for RAM.

No wonder Sony's trying to sell as much PS5s as they can in this holiday season.

Yep. If we think theoretically that PS5 is essentially doing PS4 lifetime numbers, and if we put the standard console practices on it such as price cuts, and remove all the price hikes, alongside releasing PS6 in 2030 and thus prolonging the generation (because of the good sales), the console could reach highs like 200M.

If we instead of what actually happened, put some 100$ price cut in 2024, we could had peak year of let's say 25M (from 21.6M the previous year). The PS5 at this point is selling at 299$ for the digital one and 399$ for the disc based one. Then we could have some 22-23M year now, this year - 2025, and we could have another 22-23M next year with GTA IV. Then in 2027 it would drop to 18-19M. And normally it would drop once again to 14-15M in 2028 however another price cut happens then just like previous console generations, and PS5 drops to 199$ for the digital one, and 299$ for the disc based one. So the sales remain the same 18-19M for 2028.  Drop to 15M in 2029, and finally replacing it in 2030, with sales dropping to 10M. We can of course add some more help with another price cut in 2031 to 99$ for the digital and 199$ for the disc based keeping the drop slight and doing 8M in 2031, then continuing to sell until 2035, with sales of 6M, 4M, 2M and 1M.

  • By the end of 2023 PS5 did 52M of sales
  • With the 2024 in this other reality, PS5 do 25M with that 100$ price cut, reaching 77M by end of 2024
  • By end of 2025 - another 23M breaking 100M.
  • 22M more for 2026 because of GTA VI helping it maintain almost the same sales - 122M
  • 18M more added with 2027 we have 140M
  • We add 18M more because of the second price cut - 158M by end of 2028
  • 15M more with 2029, it reaches 173M
  • 10M more with 2030, the year PS6 finally releases, 183M
  • with 2031, and the next price cut to 99$, PS5 doing another 8M, we reach 191M
  • 2032 - 6M, 197M
  • 2033 - 4M, 201M
  • 2034 - 2M, 203M
  • 2035 - 1M, 204M
  • Those long legs are because of the ridiculous price in the end of 99$

Ok, what you described is absolutely NOT standard console practices lmao. No console ever took 10 years to be replaced for one, not the PS2 and not even the Switch. And for two, even without all the inflation and pandemic and whatnot, a PS5 at $199 would be too big a loss of money for Sony, let alone at $99. You just made up an insane scenario where 200M would be possible.



TheRealSamusAran said:
Ok, what you described is absolutely NOT standard console practices lmao. No console ever took 10 years to be replaced for one, not the PS2 and not even the Switch. And for two, even without all the inflation and pandemic and whatnot, a PS5 at $199 would be too big a loss of money for Sony, let alone at $99. You just made up an insane scenario where 200M would be possible.

Yes, I made up scenario where 200M is possible. But it's not insane. (And it was not about reaching 200M, it just resulted in that. It was all about how it could gonna go if we had generation just like PS1, PS2, and to some extend PS3, where the hardware got cheaper over time, and we didn't had so much of an inflation). Saying standard console practices I meant the thing with the prices, and being cheaper over time, not the 10 years life as a major console. That hasn't been done still, yes. However in that standard console practice where there is price cuts as usual, as previous generations had, the PS5 is selling more, and therefore allowing Sony to prolong it's life. But okay, if you want cut two years, and put the launch of PS6 in 2028, it can still reach at least 180M. Also 199$ would not be sell at a loss in that example scenario because, the point of this is exactly that, the generation to be like previous ones, where 199 and even 99$ was possible. Also before the prices of tech fell quickly, so if we can take out those price hikes, and make it inline with the standard console practices where everything get cheap overtime and drop in price, then I don't see an issue there. And to clarify this is taking the time back to PS1 and PS2 days, not PS3 ones where price lower than 199$ wasn't possible (maybe it was but they needed to keep selling PS3 till 2020).

This same thing can be done for all the consoles, and extend their sales and life too.

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Man Xbox Series being down about 80% YoY this week is just absurd. It's selling like its successor has been out for a while but the next Xbox is probably still a couple years away so I am morbidly curious just how low its sales are gonna get by 2027. It's gonna get to a point where I dunno if it would even make sense to manufacture it any more. For the Switch 1 80% down points to a rapid decline outside of Japan.



Norion said:

Man Xbox Series being down about 80% YoY this week is just absurd. It's selling like its successor has been out for a while but the next Xbox is probably still a couple years away so I am morbidly curious just how low its sales are gonna get by 2027. It's gonna get to a point where I dunno if it would even make sense to manufacture it any more. For the Switch 1 80% down points to a rapid decline outside of Japan.

The crazy thing is that in many countries, Xbox series is already doing late stage Wii U numbers in sales numbers this year. So if the next Xbox hardware is slated to release late 2027, that would be like Nintendo launching the Switch in 2020 and having the Wii U on the market for 3 extra years. Mindshare must be non existant in a lot of markets outside the US for the next Xbox if that timeline happens.

Going by sales, Xbox actually needed a new console on the market more than Nintendo this year, because Xbox is selling less than Switch 1 on a monthly basis this year even after Switch 1 got replaced by Switch 2.



Sephiran said:
Norion said:

Man Xbox Series being down about 80% YoY this week is just absurd. It's selling like its successor has been out for a while but the next Xbox is probably still a couple years away so I am morbidly curious just how low its sales are gonna get by 2027. It's gonna get to a point where I dunno if it would even make sense to manufacture it any more. For the Switch 1 80% down points to a rapid decline outside of Japan.

The crazy thing is that in many countries, Xbox series is already doing late stage Wii U numbers in sales numbers this year. So if the next Xbox hardware is slated to release late 2027, that would be like Nintendo launching the Switch in 2020 and having the Wii U on the market for 3 extra years. Mindshare must be non existant in a lot of markets outside the US for the next Xbox if that timeline happens.

Going by sales, Xbox actually needed a new console on the market more than Nintendo this year, because Xbox is selling less than Switch 1 on a monthly basis this year even after Switch 1 got replaced by Switch 2.

At least the Wii U would've still kept getting Nintendo games till then. Like BOTW would've boosted Wii U sales if the Switch wasn't a thing but the only possible thing left that could do anything for Xbox sales at all at this point is GTA 6 and with them not putting any effort into selling it any more I doubt even that will do much for it next year.