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How Many Units Will the Switch 2 Sell Worldwide in its Lifetime?

Under 20 million (Wii U 2.0 disaster?) 1 0.76%
 
20–50 million (Destined for an early death) 1 0.76%
 
50–75 million (Bit of a disappointment) 2 1.52%
 
75–100 million (Solid, but not legendary) 24 18.18%
 
100–150 million (Switch 2.0 confirmed) 84 63.64%
 
150 million+ (IT PRINTS MONEY!) 20 15.15%
 
Total:132

I also think Switch 2 will be sucessull. Why i m so (not peimistic but) carefull has a logical reason. Remember expectations in the WiiU? Sucessor to the market leading Nr.1 console of Gen 7 selling 100 million+ consoles? "It cannot do worse than 50 million"- thats only one prediction i remember. We know how that turned out. I also remember the PS3- sucessor to the PS2, the most sold video gaming system- how could it ever fail?! Nr. 1 is secured. 100 milliom+ is the floor, "Revolution (codename of the Wii) is chanceless", "Xbox is a nobody". We also know the end of that one. It only managed to stay ~ on par with the Xbox, if vgchartz was to be believed MS did even sell more software than PS3 and Wii was Nr.1. Also the infamous "walkman of the 21 century" that was supposed to be a Gameboy Killer even failing to hit 100 million should serve as an example!

In Skandinavia you say: Don't sell the fish before you caught it! Anything can happen. Thats why i am putting 30- 50 million as a pesimistic floor for the Switch 2. I am no Switch 2 hater and I think it will be higher but i don't want to look like a fool, predicting gold and platin only to recieve bronce and metal after.



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Kyuu said:
firebush03 said:

i’ll be bold and say >150mil. Much stronger start than NSW, might lose some ground midgen, but it’ll prolly hold similar leg strength. I expect NSW2 to do about as good — if not, a slight bit better (or possibly worse) — than NSW. (Not to mention: The competition is currently self-imploding…)

The competition is not self-imploding...

People always exaggerate Playstation's missteps and failures (part of the reason why Xbox gets massively overestimated) and often exaggerate Nintendo's. PS5 is in some ways superior to the PS4, which btw was heavily criticized and mislabeled as "indie station" for the first 2 or 3 years. PS5 was excessively trolled since its specs were revealed and until launch. Both consoles crushed their direct competition.

Are there flaws, misdirections, and maybe a couple of outrageous mistakes? Of course! But to depict this as "self-implosion" is hyperbole. If you consider Playstation as Switch 2 competition, then you may as well consider PC (desktops, laptops, and handhelds) as competition too. PC and to a less extent Playstation are both in fact growing. I do suspect that if Sony continues to make major mistakes and doesn't pricedrop their consoles when necessary (the immediate threat is PC), the brand could be damaged, but it shouldn't be anything they can't address.

PlayStation self-imploding referring to the fact that almost all their first party studios having been developing live-service titles which would eventually need to be scrapped. Not saying that PlayStation is cratering as a brand, but rather that Sony may not have nearly as exciting an offering as Nintendo for the next years b/c of all the cancelled games, thereby giving way for NSW2 to sell through some crazy figures. 



I think COVID was a huge factor to the Switch's success, as well as a huge appetite at the time for modernised Nintendo games with BOTW really setting the pace. I see it doing PS4 like numbers (above 100m but well below 150m), but really depends on many factors such as price, competition and the quality / appeal of the games. The new 3D Zelda won't come in before year 3 as well which might hinder initial sales, though I still expect it to beat lifetime Wii U sales by year 1



Glancing at the poll, I’m curious… Who voted for <20mil?? Does somebody genuinely think this system isn’t even gonna hit GCN levels of success? (Or, more likely, was somebody simply engaging in a little bit of “trolling”?) Lol.



kopstudent89 said:

I think COVID was a huge factor to the Switch's success, as well as a huge appetite at the time for modernised Nintendo games with BOTW really setting the pace. I see it doing PS4 like numbers (above 100m but well below 150m), but really depends on many factors such as price, competition and the quality / appeal of the games. The new 3D Zelda won't come in before year 3 as well which might hinder initial sales, though I still expect it to beat lifetime Wii U sales by year 1

Switch was outpacing even the PS4 launch allinged before Covid even started. I don't think Covid was the reason for Switch doing well because it was sucessfull before. Also there was inflation during the war in ukraine. If anything, sales would have catered wich did not happen. In 2019 (before Covid) Nintendo promised a 10 years lifecycle for the Switch. In a bit more than 2 years this promise will be fullfiled!! 

@Firebush 03 <20 million is wishfull hater thinking. I go with a careful 30- 50 million LTD minimum!

Last edited by killer7 - on 01 February 2025

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killer7 said:

Switch was outpacing even the PS4 launch allinged before Covid even started. I don't think Covid was the reason for Switch doing well because it was sucessfull before. Also there was inflation during the war in ukraine. If anything, sales would have catered wich did not happen. In 2019 (before Covid) Nintendo promised a 10 years lifecycle for the Switch. In a bit more than 2 years this promise will be fullfiled!!

Not exactly. The moment Switch started selling more than the PS4 every month, was exactly with the Covid boost in 2020. And the moment when Switch passed it was in the 2020 holiday season (with total passing of lifetime sales in holiday 2022). If we don't holiday aligned it, they were going on top of each other for the first 3 years, until Switch pulls ahead with the Covid boost.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 31 January 2025

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firebush03 said:

Glancing at the poll, I’m curious… Who voted for <20mil?? Does somebody genuinely think this system isn’t even gonna hit GCN levels of success? (Or, more likely, was somebody simply engaging in a little bit of “trolling”?) Lol.

I'm also quite curious who voted for <20 mil...come out come out whoever you are!



Playing Xenoblade 2 before I buy Xenoblade 3 (otherwise I couldn't wait to play 3).

Can they announce a new Fire Emblem? A remake of Genealogy or Tellius would suffice !

XtremeBG said:
killer7 said:

Switch was outpacing even the PS4 launch allinged before Covid even started. I don't think Covid was the reason for Switch doing well because it was sucessfull before. Also there was inflation during the war in ukraine. If anything, sales would have catered wich did not happen. In 2019 (before Covid) Nintendo promised a 10 years lifecycle for the Switch. In a bit more than 2 years this promise will be fullfiled!!

Not exactly. The moment Switch started selling more than the PS4 every month, was exactly with the Covid boost in 2020. And the moment when Switch passed it was in the 2021 holiday season. If we don't holiday aligned it, they were going on top of each other for the first 3 years, until Switch pulls ahead with the Covid boost.

Do you have a table for the launch aligned numbers? (Or rather, would you be able to share? Knowing you, i have no doubt you’ve got them somewhere lol.) To me, it looks like NSW started closing in on PS4 right around the start of 2019, with the gap really starting to close with NSWLite [Sept 2019] and later COVID.



firebush03 said:

Do you have a table for the launch aligned numbers? (Or rather, would you be able to share? Knowing you, i have no doubt you’ve got them somewhere lol.) To me, it looks like NSW started closing in on PS4 right around the start of 2019, with the gap really starting to close with NSWLite [Sept 2019] and later COVID.

Table for launch aligned, no, since there was such a chart from trunks on the sales articles which run till November 2022. There it can be seen how for 3 years one came on top of the other, and in 2020 with the Covid boost, Switch skyrocketed. The corresponding year (holiday aligned) to 2019 for PS4 was 2016. Monthly they were doing very close, but the holiday was stronger for the Switch, just after the Lite launched. Monthly based outside of holidays, Switch started to constantly outsell the PS4 corresponding period in 2020. For most of 2019 until the holidays it was like a tie, one month for PS4, one for Switch.

Date PS4 monthly PS4 Total NSW monthly NSW Total Difference monthly Difference total
2016/2019 858,262 36,859,407 1,147,851 30,640,213 +289,589 -6,219,194
February 1,041,757 37,901,164 972,378 31,612,591 -69,379 -6,288,573
March 1,131,421 39,032,585 1,166,591 32,779,182 +35,170 -6,253,403
April 719,414 39,751,999 785,233 33,564,415 +65,819 -6,187,584
May 793,290 40,545,289 720,538 34,284,953 -72,752 -6,260,336
June 1,027,496 41,572,785 1,080,920 35,365,873 +53,424 -6,206,912
July 780,466 42,353,251 884,171 36,250,044 +103,705 -6,103,207
August 786,762 43,140,013 737,001 36,987,045 -49,761 -6,152,968
September 1,497,905 44,637,918 1,814,562 38,801,607 +316,657 -5,836,311
October 1,342,030 45,979,948 1,212,657 40,014,264 -129,373 -5,965,684
November 3,223,910 49,203,858 1,972,881 41,987,145 -1,251,029 -7,216,713
December 4,609,141 53,812,999 6,833,525 48,820,670 +2,224,384 -4,992,329
2017/2020 1,161,413 54,974,412 1,549,926 50,370,596 +388,513 -4,603,816
February 1,273,065 56,247,477 1,041,597 51,412,193 -231,468 -4,835,284
March 1,492,148 57,739,625 2,958,459 54,370,652 +1,466,311 -3,368,973
April 982,423 58,722,048 2,028,155 56,398,807 +1,045,732 -2,323,241
May 1,124,866 59,846,914 1,602,817 58,001,624 +477,951 -1,845,290
June 1,501,027 61,347,941 1,881,685 59,883,309 +380,658 -1,464,632
July 1,139,006 62,486,947 1,553,438 61,436,747 +414,432 -1,050,200
August 1,038,948 63,525,895 1,674,087 63,110,834 +635,139 -415,061
September 1,389,603 64,915,498 2,156,034 65,266,868 +766,431 +351,370
October 1,189,871 66,105,369 2,077,924 67,344,792 +888,053 +1,239,423
November 3,503,646 69,609,015 3,729,096 71,073,888 +225,450 +1,464,873
December 3,909,512 73,518,527 6,207,558 77,281,446 +2,298,046 +3,762,919

Do you see how in 2016/2019 for PS4/Switch they follow each other with positive and negative difference ? and how in 2020/2017 after March, everything is in the side of Switch ? That's what I mean by constantly outselling it every month.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 01 February 2025

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The pandemic isn't the reason the Switch outsold the PS4, because the Switch continued to outpace the PS4 long after the lockdowns ended and life had pretty much returned to normal for most people.