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Ashadelo said:

This is why threes so much controversy 

I was about to post this. If anyone could explain me in which reasonable circustances Sony coul have pulled out more 5 miillions of PS2 after FY12, I would thank  them a lot. Was there a sudden demand for PS2s one year or two after FY12, during the end of the PS3's and begining of the PS4's lifecycle? Or Sony just kept pushing PS2 consoles years after FY12, with little YoY decrease in sales, and it gradually came to 160 million? None of these scenarios seem plausible, so that begs the question: Is 160.01 million plausible?

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CourageTCD said:
Ashadelo said:

This is why threes so much controversy 

I was about to post this. If anyone could explain me in which reasonable circustances Sony coul have pulled out more 5 miillions of PS2 after FY12, I would thank  them a lot. Was there a sudden demand for PS2s one year or two after FY12, during the end of the PS3's and begining of the PS4's lifecycle? Or Sony just kept pushing PS2 consoles years after FY12, with little YoY decrease in sales, and it gradually came to 160 million? None of these scenarios seem plausible, so that begs the question: Is 160.01 million plausible?

PS2 was selling around 5mil per fiscal year, and then they stopped reporting precise figures after March 2011. PS2 is discontinued in January 2013, meaning 5mil systems would have shipped over the last two fiscal years: this fits very well in-line with the trajectory of PS2.

As much as I’d like to call these numbers fake and declare Switch the leader, unfortunately this data of 160mil does not surprise me even slightly.



Switch 1 will be the winner once it passes 156 i dont believe in sonys magic 160+ number



firebush03 said:
CourageTCD said:

I was about to post this. If anyone could explain me in which reasonable circustances Sony coul have pulled out more 5 miillions of PS2 after FY12, I would thank  them a lot. Was there a sudden demand for PS2s one year or two after FY12, during the end of the PS3's and begining of the PS4's lifecycle? Or Sony just kept pushing PS2 consoles years after FY12, with little YoY decrease in sales, and it gradually came to 160 million? None of these scenarios seem plausible, so that begs the question: Is 160.01 million plausible?

PS2 was selling around 5mil per fiscal year, and then they stopped reporting precise figures after March 2011. PS2 is discontinued in January 2013, meaning 5mil systems would have shipped over the last two fiscal years: this fits very well in-line with the trajectory of PS2.

As much as I’d like to call these numbers fake and declare Switch the leader, unfortunately this data of 160mil does not surprise me even slightly.

So PS2 does 1.8m in the last reported year (FY12) but somehow does average of 2.5m in each of the proceeding 2 years after that (well slightly less than 2 years) before being discontinued? What other consoles have done that?

 Also Sony didn’t report the supposed 160m total (even to shareholders from what I understand) even though it is a massive achievement for the highest selling console of all time? Doesn’t add up nor that plausible. What am I missing? Are the dates wrong and was it discontinued much later (much much later)?



nismo_33 said:
firebush03 said:

PS2 was selling around 5mil per fiscal year, and then they stopped reporting precise figures after March 2011. PS2 is discontinued in January 2013, meaning 5mil systems would have shipped over the last two fiscal years: this fits very well in-line with the trajectory of PS2.

As much as I’d like to call these numbers fake and declare Switch the leader, unfortunately this data of 160mil does not surprise me even slightly.

So PS2 does 1.8m in the last reported year (FY12) but somehow does average of 2.5m in each of the proceeding 2 years after that (well slightly less than 2 years) before being discontinued? What other consoles have done that?

 Also Sony didn’t report the supposed 160m total (even to shareholders from what I understand) even though it is a massive achievement for the highest selling console of all time? Doesn’t add up nor that plausible. What am I missing? Are the dates wrong and was it discontinued much later (much much later)?

Correction: PS2 did >1.8mil in FY’12. That figure was likely closer to 3-4mil, though Sony (for whatever reason) chose not to be super precise. I don’t view this as incriminating nor evidence of anything conclusive, and to suggest otherwise just sounds like cope for if Switch doesn’t reach 160mil.



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firebush03 said:
nismo_33 said:

So PS2 does 1.8m in the last reported year (FY12) but somehow does average of 2.5m in each of the proceeding 2 years after that (well slightly less than 2 years) before being discontinued? What other consoles have done that?

 Also Sony didn’t report the supposed 160m total (even to shareholders from what I understand) even though it is a massive achievement for the highest selling console of all time? Doesn’t add up nor that plausible. What am I missing? Are the dates wrong and was it discontinued much later (much much later)?

Correction: PS2 did >1.8mil in FY’12. That figure was likely closer to 3-4mil, though Sony (for whatever reason) chose not to be super precise. I don’t view this as incriminating nor evidence of anything conclusive, and to suggest otherwise just sounds like cope for if Switch doesn’t reach 160mil.

Not all of us are on the switch bandwagon, I never owned a NS1 or a NS2, some of us are just trying to figure out the numbers with truth and clarity, thats all.



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Ashadelo said:

This is why threes so much controversy 

This is not true. PS2 FY12 is not 1.8M. This is false data. FY12 is 4.10M for the PS2, so it's not going from 1.8 to 5M. It's going from 4.1M to 4.9M which can easily be explained by the fact that because the PS2 was still selling good amount each year, Sony did not want to cut it off yet, however because of the starting of the production of PS4 they had to. But they knew that units were going to sell even the following year, therefore instead of producing and selling let's say 3.5M that FY13, they produced a little more, in order to have some left for the following year as well.



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Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Best holiday months / When will the Switch pass 160M? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX / Switch 2

I wonder if sony counts the PSX and the ps2tv as a ps2 sold.



Chicho said:

 

 

Oh, my goodness, these final PS2 numbers are fishy as heck. Last fiscal year has seen 1.8 million sold, so at least it would have had to keep selling (no drops whatsoever!!!) the same for about 3 years, when it's highly doubtful it got those many units to the public. We are talking a moment in time when PS4 (FOUR) had already been a couple years on the market and selling. Even with extrapolation, it's very hard to believe it veritably happened, and I am not a PS hater or anything. Just the math that is shaky, that's all.

Edit: if ExtremeBG's numbers are correct (i had not seen them as I was posting), then I stand corrected as well. I was just commenting on this graph, nothing else.