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Somebody should come up with a nicer God to sell people. I'd be a lot less opposed to abrahamic religion if they didn't have such a narcissistic, vindictive prick to worship.

Last edited by VAMatt - on 24 January 2022

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padib said:
sundin13 said:

To "cheat death" does not mean to be immortal. I'm not sure where you pulled that from. 

As for all of your suppositions, I find it to be far more likely, given the greater trajectory of the scientific and medical fields, that such technology would not be created under the singular and selfish efforts of one man and those he employs, but instead by the greater scientific community. While it may be used on one man at first (likely after clinical trials demonstrating its efficacy), again this affords no idea of divine providence to such a man. If someone came to me and said "I just had a cool surgery, follow me", I would tell him to kindly fuck off. 

As for your "references", they do little to prove your point. While they imply that there may or may not be a man (again, depending on how much you assume is literal), they do not clarify whether the head references in Revelations is a literal man who suffers a literal wound and a literal resurrection.

If he can cheat death, then he can cheat death again. Esp. if he holds the power to perform this miracle on himself, he would have access to that power and could make use of it again. Can you also reflect for yourself or do I have to spoonfeed everything? It gets me impatient, try to think for yourself.

As for the scriptures, you need to correlate them. I'm a bit tired to do it for you given you can't make the link between cheating death and immortality. If your train of thought won't go beyond 1 point, I won't do the work for you it gets my energies low.

As for what the political climate will be when this man comes to power, I wouldn't be surprised if people followed him like sheep. You only need to look at how people gobble everything the goverment is throwing to us today to predict given the trends that people will soon be nearly completely brainwashed.

Here in Quebec, people believe that non-vaccinated people are putting the population in danger and people are desiring that the government constrain non-vaccinated people by stripping away their priviledges.

https://twitter.com/lefacteur10/status/1483673688440512517?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2_EhrE59fiaN2pCrWMmblUdp3iltOV8H4Wr9xTjGzEApYPSILyjWXutLA

In such political climates, anyone in power can do anything.

There is no necessity for an individual who cheated death to be able to do so multiple times. You asked earlier if anyone throughout history (other than Jesus) has been resurrected after being proper dead and there is one example: Lazarus. Lazarus was resurrected by Jesus after being dead for several days, yet he was not immortal. Again, you are introducing a number of ifs and suppositions as if they are certainties or requirements. While it is possible that an individual who "cheats death" may be immortal, it is in no way a requirement or certainty dictated by the provided scripture. 

Also, unvaccinated people are literally putting the population in danger. There is no mystical belief there. It is objective reality. 

To summarize, my issue is not with your explanation for how scripture could be explained in modern contexts. I very much agree that it is possible to translate scripture onto modern contexts. My issue is with your assertion that scripture could only be applied to modern contexts. As I previously stated, the metaphorical nature of Revelation allows it to be grafted onto many different contexts by making different assumptions regarding how much is literal and how much is figurative. You seem to be buy your confidence by making assumptions that aren't necessitated by the scripture which I have further problems with.

The theological view of Preterism is largely based on this idea, assuming that many of the things foretold by the bible have already happened over the last several thousand years and lining them up to certain points in history, so it isn't even consistent within the church how these things are to be interpreted. 



ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Wtf is this thread 😂

Top notch trolling by the OP, I'd say.



hinch said:

Is this satire, I can't tell on this forum.

Then again there are people who still believe the earth is flat, alongside wild conspiracies; that conveniently ties current events and the unexplained to religion and god. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

I was born in 666 don't believe me look at my profile and it predates this thread so that makes me literally a middle aged man, and in those 1355 years I have in every year heard that the end is nigh, well that tells me that someone up there needs to get their shit together and stop hiring bad publicity firms who think that putting stuff out on the socials and letting social media fuck it up is a good outcome ( oh for the days when all it took was the sky and some CGI created parting clouds mixed with some really good looking godrays with proper raytracing and god himself putting in an appearance to let everybody know what's going down).

Email to GOD: re fixing armageddon confusion

I understand that Godly tech doesn't come cheap even back in Moses day and the network needs upgrading since the LAN and local WIFI the angels set up just for the tribes of Israel is no long going to cut it, I also realise angels demanding double time and a half to work on the sabbath along with full health benefits including proper wing grooming adds to those costs, the last part being put into the terms and conditions by the Angels Union after Union head Satan caught you changing the pet grooming service sign to read angel grooming leading to Satan creating one Hell of a strike that is still ongoing, but I have solutions to all this.

Firstly get in contact with tech billionaires like Bazos and the rest, it shouldn't be hard since they seem to be spending all their time trying to visit your place anyway, so I'm sure that you can do a deal that opens heaven up to some tourists flights in exchange for a network upgrade also no need to worry about all those people visiting heaven messing with your poor inheriting the earth agenda, since I can assure you that with these flights there will be no poor people anywhere near heaven.

in parting just follow my advice and let the world know that it's all been arranged and set into motion for around 4 billion years time and until then just like the rest of us sit back and relax in the sun.

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The best argument would have to be, religion is bad because some of it is unproven, therefore it's harmful and useless, while science, especially gain of function, is helpful and useful, even though some of it is unproven.



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EricHiggin said:

The best argument would have to be, religion is bad because some of it is unproven, therefore it's harmful and useless, while science, especially gain of function, is helpful and useful, even though some of it is unproven.

Religions are bad when they attempt to impose themselves onto others. Otherwise, they’re ways to live one’s life morally and with principles within a community of like-minded people. And that’s been proven to be good for most people’s mental health (being part of a community).

And please, do not confuse beliefs with religions.

Religion is a somewhat indoctrinated way of living your life.

Belief is to adhere to a certain unproven interpretation of something without it necessarily affecting the way you live your life.

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TallSilhouette said:

Well, not one, but the about 100 or so from greek pantheon are all real, I swear!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_mythological_figures



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