That is not how free speech works.

Free speech does not and has not ever entitled you to say whatever you desire without restriction, in-fact free-speech is full of restrictions.

Yet what happen in France is they mocking the prophet, slandering, and ridiculed the prophet based on false accusation 

 
If you are getting upset over my commentary, then I apologize, but I still stand by my comments... No it is absolutely not slander, as I am not targeting my commentary at you as an individual... I don't necessarily like or dislike you as a person, I haven't met you, but I take issue with religion.

Not at all , I am not offended by anyone in here on this thread  , my comment is about why Macron defending free speech but at the same time what he did is not protecting free speech at all. 

Religion and faith should not be a matter of life and death, life should always come first, period.

That's your opinion,  I respect that, but for me and Muslim . Religion is part of life and death. And Muslim believe there is life after death.

I think we could all learn from Atheism, science and sound logical reasoning rather than religious indoctrination that uses the power of fear and condemnation to ensure compliance.

Again this your opinion, we are not here to discuss a religion,  but moral according to their own rule. We can discuss on another thread discussing about which one is correct.

Probability? Never claimed any such thing.

DNA or deoxyribonucleic acid acting like an intelligent being? No. Our DNA is not sentient. This topic is probably to far out of your depth if this statement is an appropriate gauge.

Again, this will lead to a bigger discussion, so i will end the discussion here. 

Any highly developed, Atheistic nation has proven that religion isn't required to ensure appropriate behavior.

Again this is debatable, we are not here to discuss which one is correct way and methode 

If anything, religion has taught us the opposite... That religion helps breed extremism in various forms... Hence Islamist terrorists, Christian terrorists... Anti-women, attacks on LGBT rights and so much more.
Religious history is marred by war and abuse... How many priests have abused children? To many to count.

Again this debatable but for sure, but don't forget many has been killed in the name of atheism like Marxism, and etc. 

I don't dispute that... This is where I tend to be extremely conservative... And that if anyone intends to migrate to my country and ignore the law of the land and instead follow their religious indoctrination, then stay out. You aren't welcome.

Muslim has been living on non Muslim place since the day of the prophet, they spreading in China, Europe, Asia and etc. Under non Muslim ruled country  . Islam teach to respect the local rule . 

All religious text has been altered.

There is no evidence a God has existed and made the Torah. Prove me otherwise. Try it.

Again this will create another debate out of this topic. I will end here

The Quran is just another interpretation, what people "believe" is ultimately irrellevent, there is no evidence that supports any particular religion as being the "true" or "correct" or "unaltered" religion.

But what is absolutely true is that the Jewish Torah is the first of the three religions, it's the oldest.

Again this will create another debate out of this topic. I will end here

The thing with language is that it actually changes over time.
A word can have one meaning in one century... And a completely different meaning in another.

Qur'an never  changed, in fact Arabic grammatical word came from Qur'an. Before Qur'an exist the Arab did not have grammar

At one point the word "Gay" was oft-used to term someone who felt happy... But fast forward 100~ years and it is referenced to someone who is homosexual.

Thus texts, whether it be religious or otherwise does and should change to adapt, but my point isn't about that... My point is that you have so many denominations (Even in the Muslim world I.E. Sunni, Shia etc') where they take on a different "interpretation" of the religious texts and interpret it in their own way to fit a certain narrative and that is fallacious.

Again the shia is not Muslim because they don't believe in Qur'an  but that's for another topic. They are minority who reject Islam as teaching but pretend to be Islam, but in reality they rejecting to believe of the Qur'an and prophet words, they even killing many Muslim 

So whilst you can try to claim that the Qur'an has never been altered, it's interpretations most certainly have.

Either way... I will provide some blatantly obvious evidence that the Quran has certainly been altered.
https://carm.org/have-there-been-changes-in-the-quran

Evidence is there, read it and weep.

that's not evidence at all, that just opinion  by shia. The Qur'an are still the same , the same words the same language, the same meaning unlike Bible that has been lost it's original language . The Qur'an has been translate to many language but the original Qur'an it self still preserve on original form "Arabic" . While it's true there is many dialect but the dialect never altered it's meaning and it still the same, even you can find the Qur'an that written in the stone from the prophet era. 

I feel life is less valuable in religions that call for torture, beheading, incarcerations, and response to criticisms... Did you not read the Op where there were terrorist attacks?

Did Muslim kill every person on the street, or it just one person misguided?  The fact that Muslim are killed by the Rohingya, execute on India,  prove the other way Around, Muslim always been attacked , they should be the one attacking if your idea is true then Muslim the one who always rage a war.  

So whilst you might be able to pull a verse from the Quran bible that paints it in a "good" light, there are dozens of others which are downright disgusting and even plain evil.
Same goes for the Bible, there are a few lovey-dovey verses, but when there is a single verse that says a child should be stoned to death for breaking a law, then that religion is incompatible with a modern, secular, civilized world. And is not a religion and thus God worth our time.

I am never said Islam always peace and love, there is some exception boundary and reason, that's why Islam can coexist with modern society. We can defend our self if it means killing people like any modern society  

No they don't. Don't lie.

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/french-foreign-policy/human-rights/death-penalty/france-and-the-death-penalty/

Ok so they can kill people in the war . :) 

I am ridiculing your religion, not attacking you as an individual. There is a very big difference there.

Perhaps Islam needs to evolve like Christianity and Judaism to work around the phobias, honestly they bring it on themselves, just look at the middle-east.

My religion is not wrong, you can blame me but not my religion. The person who killed are not following the correct Islamic teaching .  The religion is perfect,  it  even help a barbaric un educated group of people living on the dessert far form civilization to be civilize, helping Europe gaining renaissance era.  When the Muslim spread on Europe . They help build the country unlike Mongol .

So like for example when an organization calls itself the Islamic State, that's a non-religious organization, you're saying?

I think it's worth being serious about getting to the roots of why terrorists commit acts of terror. Whether it's considered politically correct or not to say as much (the French people being known for their brutal frankness), religion definitely was the motive here. That's just a fact.

Also, I was obviously being sarcastic when I said "the mere assassination" before. The taking of someone's life is obviously the more genuine and serious issue here. it's obviously a big deal.

This is about intolerance. Macron was criticizing intolerant elements within Islam in response to a beheading. That's not irrational or unjustified. As an atheist lesbian myself, I can't help agreeing with the view that says most Muslims around the world are quite a bit more bigoted against me than I am against them. They would generally take away my right to be an atheist, my right to love other women, and hell maybe even my right to leave my house without the accompany of a male guardian because, being merely a woman, I'm not even thought of as an adult let alone their equal. Despite these realities, the unconditional respect of your faith by everyone on the globe is demanded. No. That's not how it works. If you want the respect of others, you have to treat them with the same level of respect you demand from them.

You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. But what you can't do is demand that I practice your faith or that I respect hypocrites.

If this is so, why aren't there any demonstrations against, you know, the mere assassination?

You have to understand how ridiculous this situation looks over here. America, for example, is a 75% Christian country demographically wherein Jesus Christ is parodied on TV programs like South Park all the time and nobody dies as a result. Now there are many conservative Christians who are offended by such things and who in the past have been known to protest and even try to have programs like South Park censored or taken off the air altogether, but those people didn't represent the prevailing opinion of the nation and nobody died.

Likewise, people "slander" me every day on the internet. Do I behead them in response? Well I feel like it sometimes momentarily, but no, I choose not to act on that impulse because that would be retarded. But maybe there's too much commentary on religion itself implied here in this statement.

I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that I don't really understand this level of upset over the idea of being criticized. I understand finding the criticism of one's faith unpleasant, but generally in the Western world you'll find that people (who aren't the current president of the United States) get over being criticized because it's not actually the end of the world. It's not like people in Muslim-majority countries generally grant people the right to freedom of religious belief or respect other people's faiths at all -- I mean most of the world's remaining theocracies are Islamic ones if I'm not mistaken -- so there just seems to be a massive amount of hypocrisy going on in such people marching against the mere criticism of Islam to the neglect of the context in which said criticism took place, claiming that their freedom of religion has been violated by words; by other people's freedom of speech. No Muslim's right to belief and to worship has been hindered here. Someone has died though. In fact, many people have died at this point.

Yes, the evidence is Islam never teach people or Muslim to kill people without reasoning, without judge permission, authority and without cause . There are some  misguided Muslim out there that made a mistake , i can agree but Islam it self never teach that. The same thing with every other religion like White supremacist , Hindus terroirs, Nazi or even Jew (Israel ) Zionist.

No in Islam we cannot killed people without any reasoning , without the permission of local authority ,Muslim cannot kill people or sentence people to death without permission of judge or other reasoning.

So The terrorist's is just a misguided people who misunderstood about Islam

Will just disagree on the president. For the power he holds and the amount of mockery he receives I don't see he taking any absurd measures. While other groups try to make every comment against them a form of prejudice and hatred to make people go to jail or lose job because of what they said.

Oh I see. So you've never heard of the infamous "LOCK..HER..UP! LOCK..HER..UP!" chant that everyone else on Earth remembers as a defining feature of his first election campaign, you're saying? Likewise, you don't recall Mr. Trump recently calling on Congress to arrest and imprison his rival in this election, Joe Biden, as well as Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and pretty much all other prominent Democrats in existence for good measure? You don't remember him sending in the army to quell protests even after the cities in question asked him not to? You don't remember him threatening to delay this year's presidential election because he might lose (er I mean 'corrupt mail-in ballots', sorry)? You don't recall his endorsement of the Proud Boys (a right wing street gang that requires its members to physically attack leftists) last month? Or his repeated attempts to impose new legal restrictions on the ability of the press ("the enemy of the people", in his words) to criticize him? Or his decision to do nothing in response to the cold-blooded murder of a Washington Post journalist because the Washington Post had been critical of him? Or his attempt to ban TikTok because some kids used it to prank him this summer? Or the tax hikes on "blue states" contained in the 2017 "tax cut" bill because those people voted against him? Or his systematic withholding of personal protective equipment from "blue states" because they voted against him (i.e. 'you didn't vote for me, so you can die from the virus')? All of that slipping your mind? That's just for starters! I could go on with this list forever if you want, but the point is that the man obviously can't handle dissent. We are only lucky that he hasn't gotten his way much of the time because if he did...*shudders*...I don't even want to think about what kind of country we'd be right now. We'd be like his favorite country, Russia.

Donald Trump is NOT a good poster boy for free speech, or for freedom of anything in general. I really only threw in a passing mention of him because the reality is that without the Islamic State, he wouldn't be president. The kind of actions and attitudes we're talking about on this thread are much of the reason he was able to become a viable candidate. People across the Western world legitimately feared for their lives after seeing what happened to France and Sweden in 2015. That was very real. I felt it. I was scared too. That's what terrorism is. It's the whole point. Without it, there's no way Donald Trump would be my president right now. This is how people like Trump and Modi and the rest go from being demagogues to becoming heads of state.

Separation can only happen it there is something wrong with the source of the  religion and the bible has been question of originality. In Islam we don't have that because separation is a sin for a ruler (if you a ruler of a country and Muslim but separate God and country ) but this sin only applied to a ruler or government who believe in Islam. 

I’d counter that these laws from Judaism, Christianity and Islam were written when life was harsh and its laws reflected that. We have evolved as a species and as such the laws have largely changed since 1500+ years ago. I’m just gonna say if people of your faith believe saying words equals death, or chopping off heads is even considered as a punishment, then maybe you need some type of reform. 

Our faith and belief doesn’t change. How we conduct ourselves as people should however adapt with the times. 

Actually no I don't, these haven't reached Brazil.

I do know several places requested for elections to be suspended because well we have lockdown to avoid large number of people in same place, but for election politicians will ignore it (In Brazil we had pandemic fearmongering for months but on the month of election everybody is supposed to pretend everything is under control to go and vote, and quite likely them hear about a second wave).

Will you say Biden, Obama et caterva doesn't support BLM that essentially do violent acts? The tiktok what I know was that USA forced they to be sold to an American company.

Trump certainly isn't a poster boy for free speech, nor is any politician as far as I'm concerned. But to pretend the regular citizen doesn't demand even more (looking at you cancel culture). Trump and some other right wing politicians are declared dictators by their oponents, but all we can really verify is they claiming something done but not really changing laws or doing anything really dictatorial. And sure terrorism makes people feel in terror (that is their purpose) and sure politicians that take a pledge to be hard on it will gain traction.

Thing is, if Jesus was really like the bible portrayed him to be, he wouldn't give a fuck about what other people say about him.

That's why modern Christians aren't going to be as angry about it when someone mocks him. If Jesus wouldn't care, why would I?

Not sure if I can say the same about Muhammad.