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HollyGamer said:

Yes correct indeed some Muslim law country allowed death penalty for blasphemy. Because any country has rights to kill anyone within their rule, the same like western country has right to kill anyone who threaten their country safety , political stability or people that can cause problem in the society. Hell even any country has the right to invaded any country if the country are against their idea or ideology . I think it's normal 

Then those countries need to change.

I am a supporter of abolishing the death penalty... And is actually one of my countries international mandates to push for the removal of the Death Penalty.
Why? Because innocent people HAVE been proven innocent after they have been put to death... And one falsely accused, innocent person killed by a due-process is one person to many.

Life is also precious. Having the Death penalty does not actually reduce crime rates, we just need to look at the Middle East, Africa, South America or USA for evidence of that... I would rather put those criminals to work in a secured, isolated capacity in order to repay the debt to society for the rest of their lives... They could be growing food to donate to the most vulnerable like the homeless.

Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, all of these countries would sentence me to death because of my Atheistic beliefs... Despite the lives I have saved, the towns and cities I have protected.
That's not freedom. And they tend to be Muslim nations.

And if we start talking about LGBTQI rights issues... Things get even more messy.

So whilst yes... Many modern states like the USA have the death penalty, they won't kill you for being an Atheist, they won't kill you for being Homosexual, they won't kill you for criticizing the government... That is where Islamic nations need reform, need to change... And need to grow up.



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HollyGamer said:
JuliusHackebeil said:
HollyGamer said:

Muhammad is not the author of Qur'an , he cannot read nor write in living on the dessert far from Civilization far from science. The Qur'an is the miracle that keep proving and already tested by science, artistic literation and modern time even until now. That's why many people converting to Islam.

It's bad idea in your opinion, but Muslim believe that QUr'an and Islam is the guidance for life that teach how we live as society, teach us on doing business, on family and how to live as society in country 

It's objective by opinion not by general rule of thumb. 

Sahih Bukhari 6:60:311

After Muhammad received the verse 3:31, Aisha commented, "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."

How does it feel not to understand what even a 9-year-old could understand?

And it someone wants to understand more of the historical context actually at the heart of the islamic belief and ideology, I'd suggest Tom Holland:

Much like early Judaism was made in the Bible into something far more expansive than it really was (most of Canaan being pagan until a few centuries before the Romans), Islam arose gradually from the historical context of 7th century Arabic context in face of the sophisticated Byzantine/Sassanid theologies as a sort of answer to them.



 

 

 

 

 

Too many Islamophobia.



Certain cultures are simply too far apart and should not mix. Do business and trade, but otherwise, stay in your boxes. Don't be coming here, if you are unable to leave your decapitating tendencies behind.