You shouldn't trust any global operating, multi-billion dollar company. Seriously.
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| Tamron said: While this entire thread is just opinion I would like to point out a few glaring issues.
By your own admission it seems more geared towards generating a response than showing xbox fans 'the light'.
That is simply being deceptive and selectional, all three companies have made promises/lies/empty claims extensively throughout their tenure in the games industry, neither one is especially better than the other in that regard.
This is just simple marketing, I have seen adverts for playstation that show move, lightguns and all sorts of other accessories then show a pricetag for the console, just as ive seen Wii adverts where everyone is playing, 4 remotes!, then lists the pricetag for a console with just one, that is purely marketing, they want to show off the product in the best light and show you what possibilities lay before you should you jump on board with the product, you are simply seeing it negatively, again selectively, because you have a preconveived opinion going in.
As far as i remember the software on the xbox was upgradable, but the hardware was not, and i do not recall ever reading that it was ever going to be, either. As for the rest, there have been a number of large changes at microsoft and these changes ultimately include new people in charge of planning, pr and strategy, if your product isnt selling as well as the competitor, then it only makes sense to try to emulate what it is thats making the competitor sell better, everyone copies everyone else, not because they want to but because it's a business, they pretty much HAVE to. Unless of course you're trying to argue that a businesses first priority isn't to make money.
A little like dead optical drives on virtually every console with optical drives, NES cart slots and the whole blowing the cart thing, gameboy game batteries dying and losing saves, ps2 DRE, ps3 YLOD, game gear capacitors, gameboy color sound issues and so on and so on, electronics are prone to unforseen technical issues and to a huge extent the introduction of RoHS is to blame. Console realiability took a nose dive with the introduction of RoHS compliance and BGA components suffered the worst, around the time of the Xbox 360 launch the PC scene was suffering from an extensive epidemic that began with RoHS compliances introduction and was still rife with issues many years later, it's only improved manufacturing and better component design that has slowly calmed that beast, either way to single out RROD as if it was the only notable issue is flat out wrong, since you're a gamer, to you it was simply the most documented and talked about. While I appreciate that this thread is simply your opinion, and I respect what you personally believe, I can honestly say that I don't personally agree with anything you've said, and suspect that the point was simply to garner a response rather than make a solid argument for your opinion. |
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Poorly constructed arguments, lacks reasoning and totally ignores the sins perpetrated by other companies as many posters have already outlined in this thread.
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| kowenicki said: Lets be honest. This is a biased rant based on low knowledge of the situations you 'discuss' and from a starting point if hatred and a very skewed, almost, paranoid view of the world. I worry for you. I'm also bemused that a mod has commented and left this open. Frankly, that stinks. |
We're talking about it and we shall decide whether or not the thread should be locked or not, thanks.
So long as comments similar to this one from you are left out then I agree with starcraft. For now.
Indeed, for now the thread is teetering on the verge of turning into a flame war. Today is the day of E3, so we really don't want to ban anyone. So please, no unwarranted attacks on the OP or anyone else in the thread!
I mean all you need to do to see Microsoft's Xbox strategy is look at all of their other market strategies: Leech off the winners.
-The Zune was a failed attempt to leech off the iPod's success.
-The Surface Tablet was a failed attempt to leech off the iPad's success.
-Xbox is trying to leech off of Playstation's success, and I suppose they have done a good job of it compared to their other ventures.
The sooner MS gets out of the console business, the sooner they will stop holding back the console business and make PC gaming as strong as it should be. Honestly if it wasn't for Valve, PC gaming probablt would have all but died in 2005.
Wow I must say I am surprised this is still open. I think I might have been banned for less, less words at least. That's not a complaint mind you just curious and trying to put this in perspective with my few past offenses.
I learned in a writing class in highschool that one of the biggest parts of writing anything really is basically truncation. Removing as much as possible so it's clear and to the point so let me try that with the op. The title is:
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The body should be: "Because you really shouldn't trust anyone ever really...especially a corporation of any kind. it's basic common sense" - The end.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't distrust them to the point you will never do business with them. It's not like they are commiting genocide or anything as far as we know...(I'm looking at you Nintendo! why don't you tell us why there are so few toadstools walkin about yet so many mushrooms for Mario? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING!)
What it means is that you should always keep an eye on them, and do your research before you make any kind of purchase. That's why it's important to not let distrust/hate or trust/loyalty blind you to reality. Facts are important and ya can't see them for what they are if you got blinders on. Without seeing them as they are you can either miss out on something great or set yourself up for huge dissapointment. That's pretty much why MS is in bad shape now, they didn't have a strong, clear, and coherent message at the start. No one really knew what the facts were for sure and there was entirly too much contradiction. Facts are also fluid and change with time. Sure you can't change the past, and sure there are some things you can't take back or walk away from. So far none of the game companies to my knowledge have reached that point yet. So we should show them at least some forgivness and give them a chance to make up for past mistakes and hopefully make the future a brighter one.
Also just a bit of advice, I don't think anyone cares what you or anyone else loves/hates trusts/distrusts. I mean I don't know but.....hey,,,you,,,,yeah you..the one reading this..Honestly tell me do you care about what anyone else here loves/hates or trusts/distrusts? Probably not. I can only speak for myself but the only time I care is when it overtakes people's perception of reality and causes them to make terrible...terrible arguments. It just makes me feel bad, it's like Old Yeller foaming at the mouth
I mean if you want people to interact on your posts you could do what some people do. That's create click-bait/flamebait, or post insane predictions and spend pages and pages just goading people with nonsense completely disregarding logic, reality, and just about anything anyone else says. Just filling the pages with intentional delusion and insanity. Or you can do something different by posting something that excites and entices people, or brings them together and challenges assumptions and preconcieved notions. Ya know instead of splooging assumptions and preconcieved notions all over everything and everyone..
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What you just said is how competition works. Sony did not change their ways until they were getting beat by MS and Nintendo. As always you have this warm and fuzzy feeling about Sony when they make changes or do good but never seem to recognize that competition made Sony change.
Really, why anyone would love any large corporation always escapes me. You should never trust any of these companies as they all have a pass where they were on top they tried to stifle competition. Its what corporations do and just because a company is on the bottom trying to gain consumers trust because they have no choice doesn't mean they should be trusted anymore than the company on Topic throwing their weight around.
Nintendo said they didn't want to put DLC in their games at first and now they do, but I don't think you can blame them for that. A company has to go with the time and if that contradicts an earlier statement, let it be so. I don't see how Microsoft intentionally said to themselves "let's lie to our costumers about the XOne's kinectless future"
So they've seen their competitors do well and so have adopted many similar strategies? Shocking!
Also, Sony has done more than just 'lie a bit'. Google 'Sony Rootkit'. They have broken the law in the past to protect their IP. They can't be trusted. I love Nintendo games but wouldn't trust them either as far as I could throw Reggie. These people want your money and aren't your friends. Microsoft just has the balls to do it to your face. Competition is the only thing keeping them in check.
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