The only thing I have to say is i got a 360 in 2006 it broke that year they took care of me. My x1's disc tray broke they took care if me again, and they were extremely nice both times. I have no problem at all if u ask me they are a wonderful company.

This thread just made me more excited for the kinnect free xboxone. :)

i agree

MS did lie to all of us and they didnt change their ways to be nice. It was because Sony was beating them.

What a piece of *** article... why don't we talk about how trustworthy gaming companies are? We all know that whatever MS will do good or bad is considered bad...

So because Nvidia didn't want to get them a better deal, MS had to keep going on losing tons of money... according to some it's how things work when you're a business.

Everyone knows MS made the RROD on purpose and didn't do jack*** about it leaving people with faulty consoles and laughed all their way to the bank because xbox gamers didn't get a 3 year warranty...

MS were trying to pass a policy that gamers didn't want and now that they're trying to change that in order to give gamers what they are considered untrustworthy because they change their policy?

I have a Kinect with my X1 and I don't feel like MS ows me anything because they are now selling two sku, one with Kinect and one without... I would've bought the one with Kinect anyway... should I start not trusting them?

So all these but should I trust Sony or Nintendo more?

They are always trying to make a console so different that we know third party devs will pass on developing for it. Also they seem to have problems with their controllers, their IPs, while great for what they are, never include things like sim racers, western rpgs, more realistic and gritty look and stories etc... hey but these concerns lead me to not trust Nintendo for my gaming needs, are they bad for that? No, Should I try to convince everyone that they are untrustworthy? No!!!

Sony... I had to buy 3 PS2 because of their disc read error... did they do anything for that? No! Did they acknowledge the faulty PS1 and PS2? No! Did they try to sue someone who tried to put another OS in his console? Yes! Were they trying to prevent companies from releasing games on Saturn? Yes! Did they get lazy on the protection for their online resulting in the loss of credit card numbers and online components for a month? Yep! Can I go on for a long time? I sure can...

But should all these stop me from enjoying games like Uncharted, The Order, Bayonetta 2 etc? It's incredible how this industry is based on "trust" of gamers more than on what experience these gamers can get.

the irony of this post being that spending money is exactly how Sony made any headway into the market. Bleeding tons of money on hardware to make it up with software and securing all these same exclusive content deals people bitch at MS for. Furthermore it's hilarious when people white knight for Sony in a financial manner since the only thing keeping Sony afloat recently is the money they make as an insurance company.

lol a perfect reply

And I typed this up on my PS2 with its Internets that is like living a real world Matrix.

So when PS3 was super expensive and Sony removed the PS2 retrocompatibility, and the other OS, and other ports... was it in order to lower the price so they could be more competitive with 360 or was it just because they had bad intentions like MS?

While this entire thread is just opinion I would like to point out a few glaring issues.

By your own admission it seems more geared towards generating a response than showing xbox fans 'the light'.

That is simply being deceptive and selectional, all three companies have made promises/lies/empty claims extensively throughout their tenure in the games industry, neither one is especially better than the other in that regard.

This is just simple marketing, I have seen adverts for playstation that show move, lightguns and all sorts of other accessories then show a pricetag for the console, just as ive seen Wii adverts where everyone is playing, 4 remotes!, then lists the pricetag for a console with just one, that is purely marketing, they want to show off the product in the best light and show you what possibilities lay before you should you jump on board with the product, you are simply seeing it negatively, again selectively, because you have a preconveived opinion going in.

As far as i remember the software on the xbox was upgradable, but the hardware was not, and i do not recall ever reading that it was ever going to be, either.

As for the rest, there have been a number of large changes at microsoft and these changes ultimately include new people in charge of planning, pr and strategy, if your product isnt selling as well as the competitor, then it only makes sense to try to emulate what it is thats making the competitor sell better, everyone copies everyone else, not because they want to but because it's a business, they pretty much HAVE to. Unless of course you're trying to argue that a businesses first priority isn't to make money.

A little like dead optical drives on virtually every console with optical drives, NES cart slots and the whole blowing the cart thing, gameboy game batteries dying and losing saves, ps2 DRE, ps3 YLOD, game gear capacitors, gameboy color sound issues and so on and so on, electronics are prone to unforseen technical issues and to a huge extent the introduction of RoHS is to blame.

Console realiability took a nose dive with the introduction of RoHS compliance and BGA components suffered the worst, around the time of the Xbox 360 launch the PC scene was suffering from an extensive epidemic that began with RoHS compliances introduction and was still rife with issues many years later, it's only improved manufacturing and better component design that has slowly calmed that beast, either way to single out RROD as if it was the only notable issue is flat out wrong, since you're a gamer, to you it was simply the most documented and talked about.

While I appreciate that this thread is simply your opinion, and I respect what you personally believe, I can honestly say that I don't personally agree with anything you've said, and suspect that the point was simply to garner a response rather than make a solid argument for your opinion.

Preach on brother!

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