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Which will sell more lifetime?

Wii U 126 75.45%
 
PS Vita 28 16.77%
 
It could honestly go either way 13 7.78%
 
Total:167
RolStoppable said:
Paatar said:

That isn't bias. Show me the games that are being released for the Vita that have the potential to sell over 1m copies? Zelda U, Xenoblade, Splatoon, Star Fox and SMT x FE will most likely sell more than 1m. (Obviously Zelda, Xeno and Star Fox will) There is no bias in that. One game might be a system seller for someone on the Vita, but I'm talking about as a whole. More people will buy a Wii U when Zelda hits the shelves rather than when PS Vita gets a bunch of Niche games in the west. See my point? That isn't being bias.

I know, that's why I said what I said.


I think he meant to quote me.  And apparently I wasn't sarcastic enough in my selecting of the most obvious truth for it to be seen as such.  Damn shame that.



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Hmm good question. I'll go with the Wii U

Also see my PSV & Wii U predictions in my sig, they may seem crap now but at the time they were posted 95% of the community couldn't envisage them selling that little, particularly the wii u /promo.



Paatar said:

So currently, people are still saying the Wii U is a failure. But I do not ever hear anything about the Vita!

That's because you are too late to this site. The Vita-trouble-threads are already gone. But they existed.



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RolStoppable said:
Paatar said:

That isn't bias. Show me the games that are being released for the Vita that have the potential to sell over 1m copies? Zelda U, Xenoblade, Splatoon, Star Fox and SMT x FE will most likely sell more than 1m. (Obviously Zelda, Xeno and Star Fox will) There is no bias in that. One game might be a system seller for someone on the Vita, but I'm talking about as a whole. More people will buy a Wii U when Zelda hits the shelves rather than when PS Vita gets a bunch of Niche games in the west. See my point? That isn't being bias.

I know, that's why I said what I said.

EDIT: Bolded is what I mean, along with the previously bolded sentence. The rest of the above post isn't entirely unbiased though.


I did not mean to quote you. But it isn't bias when you say those games will sell more than 1m. It is a given and a given even a sony or micro fanboy can't deny.



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Dr.Vita said:
Give me a reason! PS Vita will have a longer life (Sony always supports their consoles longer than Nintendo + this will be their last handheld so it will stay on the market a long time!) and it is selling as good as Wii U in January 2015 considering it is still undertracked in January 2015. 2014 shipments were also not that different. 

You say as Sony completely ceases support for the Vita. And I sincerely doubt they'll keep the Vita on the market for a long time (outside of Japan) since it's selling so poorly. Retailers won't want to waste shelf space on it.



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Mnementh said:
Paatar said:

So currently, people are still saying the Wii U is a failure. But I do not ever hear anything about the Vita!

That's because you are too late to this site. The Vita-trouble-threads are already gone. But they existed.


Yeah that is what people keep telling me. Shame I didn't know about those threads before I posted haha



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Samus Aran said:
Dr.Vita said:

Did you even have a Playstation Vita? Playstation Vita has good games as much as the Wii U has, just because they are not that popular like the Nintendo games it doesn't mean that PS Vita has no games. 

PS Vita is undertracked here in VGChartz by a at least 600k for 2014 (source) and around 20-30k for January 2015 (source). And PS Vita will have a longer life than Wii U. In my opinion Wii U will never beat PS Vita!

And there is more hate for the Wii U than for the Vita on this site? Whaaat? Just what? Can you please give me a proof? The most users here are Nintendo gamer, you know that, aren't you?

Well, in 20 years from now, what are the games Vita will be remembered for? 

GC has TP, WW, MP, SMS, MK: DD, SSBM, RE4, Pikmin

PS2 has GTA III, GoW, Jak & Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, Okami

Wii U has SM3DW, MK8, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2, SSB4, etc.


Persona 4: Golden, Tearaway, Gravity Rush, Soul Sacrifice, Final Fantasy X / X2 HD Remaster... This are all great games which the gaming industry loves and will be remembered in 20 years. 

SM3DW, MK8, Pikmin 3 and SSB4 are all games which we saw already. Of course these games are great, but we know these games since Gamecube times. These are not new. Only Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 did something new, both will be remembered in 20 years.



RolStoppable said:
Neodegenerate said:

I think he meant to quote me.  And apparently I wasn't sarcastic enough in my selecting of the most obvious truth for it to be seen as such.  Damn shame that.

I see, for a moment I thought you were a lost cause.


Oh I am a lost cause but even on lost causes the situation for these two particular pieces of hardware is obvious.  I think the best case scenario for the Vita is it sells another million or so lifetime.  Wii U should get considerable enough bumps from their offerings this year to get past 11 million and put Vita permanently in its rearview.



The reason why the Vita is not constantly critisiced for being a failure* is because it's a well known fact that it is, and the vita hate threads have decreased due to this reason. The Wii U on the other hand is a console whose manufacturer still supports it and yet somehow still seems to be selling below expectations, therefore this leads to more hate directed towards the Wii U as it's failure is more apparent. In my case I prefer the Wii U since it has good games and lots of them.

* By failure I am referring to the amount of console sold.



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Paatar said:
Neodegenerate said:
1. You are indeed biased.

2. Vita trashing is old-hat now. People have moved on.

3. Both systems have received/currently receive criticism for not living up to expectations.


Where is there any bias in my post?

I have only stated facts.

Wii U and Vita are both failures

Wii U has better quality games than Vita

Wii U has more system sellers in 2015 than Vita.

No bias there.

I marked the bias for your reference.



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