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RolStoppable said:

The Daily Show really hit it out of the park with this one. 10/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWnHWbeeFxA

A brilliant coincidence that this happened to be Desi Lydic's week of hosting the show.

Funny that it takes a satire comedy show to sum up the controversy better than the majority of opinion and news site.  The Megan Kelly part sums up exactly how when something even have a hint of political meaning the story changes based on who it is targeted at. 



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Darc Requiem said:
LurkerJ said:

I don't disagree that the Jaguar ad sucks, but one of the metrics of a successful ad is getting people to watch it and talk about it. In an age in which attention is a very expensive currency, I think it's an achievement that we're talking about either ad campaigns. And while the Jaguar ad sucks, one cannot ignore that the negative reactions were majorly fuelled by the crowd that shouts and ready to go off "go-woke-go-broke" at the slightest hint of "diversity". As someone who has been critical of the left in the last 10 years for their overzealous policing of thoughts, I just can't see how the anti-DEI crowd isn't much worse in their trigger-ability and stupidity. 

As for the Jaguar ad being a recipe for a disaster, I see a lot of bad ads by Apple, and not every Nintendo ad is my cup of tea either, but they hardly influence my buying decision. I don't know if Jaguar went bust because of that ad. Maybe something for me to look into. 

All these corporations are full of shit anyway. They will fly the LGBT flag when the vibe is right, and they will burn them down the minute they think it's going to become inconvenient to their bottom line. 

Jaguar sales tanked after their new ad campaign. It was a catastrophic decline. 97.5% decline to be more specifc. People raging online isn't necessarily a reflection of general sentiment. However, in the case of Jaguar, the general reaction was not good. If a company rolls out an ad campaign that tanks their sales. The ad campaign bad. At this point, I don't care about whatever buzzword people toss around. DEI, Woke, etc. They get tossed around ad nauseum until they lose all meaning. What's the reality of the situation? That's the only thing that matters. People have raged on line about things that have done well. The problem I see with ads on the whole is that companies often assume the online reaction reflects reaction of the general public. Sometime it's the vocal minority and sometimes it's the canary in the coal mine that signals a need to change course. 

https://autos.yahoo.com/articles/jaguars-wild-electric-gt-range-153700079.html

Why do people always just believe everything they read from some dudes on Twitter or wherever else? The sales didn't drop 97,5% because of some failed ad campaign. They simply dropped so much in Europe because they didn't have cars to sell anymore and stopped production already months before that drop. 

How can anyone even believe such a high number could have any other reason as "there were no cars to sell"?

Doesn't mean their new direction won't completely fail but that has nothing to do with the campaign itself and rather with if those Jaguar customers who don't want to buy an Jaguar EV can be replaced with as many new customers who will buy a Jaguar because of it. 

Edit: ok Lurker mentioned it already but yeah, crazy how easy people believe something. 



RolStoppable said:

The Daily Show really hit it out of the park with this one. 10/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWnHWbeeFxA

A brilliant coincidence that this happened to be Desi Lydic's week of hosting the show.

That Megyn Kelly stuff puts her hypocrisy front and center, I recommend watching.

I literally just caught this one. It more or less confirms what I want to say about the following post:

LurkerJ said:

Not long ago, the right threw a hissy fit over this ad. Even Elon Musk jumped in and made silly comments. Check the YouTube comments section for how vile and triggered people were over it. 

I'll try to be consistent and say the same thing for both ads, they grabbed my attention. Prior to seeing either ad, I had no idea that Jaguar was about to unveil a new lineup of cars, and I never thought about American Eagle as a place where I can buy clothes. So well done both? 

Pop Culture was regularly guilty of being controversial, maybe we're just heading back to how things were not long ago, for good or bad, depending on your perspective. 

It seems that the hissy fits being thrown at this ad and the Sydney Sweeney ad are both coming from predominantly right-wing reactionaries and a small number of pro-leftist virtue signalers whose life is just virtue signaling about every little thing they can find.

This is the current face of outrage culture, it's predominantly from the reactionary side pretending like the entire left thinks a certain way, when it's really just a small number of pro-left virtue signalers.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

I'm really not invested in any of this.

Just give me season three of Euphoria, I hope her ad doesn't complicate getting it filmed, the rest of the world can burn for all I care :p



TheRealSamusAran said:

Also, is op really going to pretend they never heard of eugenics? I mean, I'm sure at least a handful of the articles they linked mention that while explaining the controversy.

Eugenics hasn't been a widespread or mainstream thing in almost a century.

Getting offended by a joke about great genes in 2025 cos of things that happened before 99% of people alive today were even born is ridiculous.



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What,they never actually said great genes, just jeans?

Lol

Fucking.

LoL
People are so stupid and on edge nowadays crying over anything just to get attention.



 

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LurkerJ said:
Darc Requiem said:

Jaguar sales tanked after their new ad campaign. It was a catastrophic decline. 97.5% decline to be more specifc. People raging online isn't necessarily a reflection of general sentiment. However, in the case of Jaguar, the general reaction was not good. If a company rolls out an ad campaign that tanks their sales. The ad campaign bad. At this point, I don't care about whatever buzzword people toss around. DEI, Woke, etc. They get tossed around ad nauseum until they lose all meaning. What's the reality of the situation? That's the only thing that matters. People have raged on line about things that have done well. The problem I see with ads on the whole is that companies often assume the online reaction reflects reaction of the general public. Sometime it's the vocal minority and sometimes it's the canary in the coal mine that signals a need to change course. 

https://autos.yahoo.com/articles/jaguars-wild-electric-gt-range-153700079.html

Thank you for the information above.

I've just had a look online to see exactly how a company can have almost 100% decline in sales after an ad campaign, there is a lot more to the story than just the ads being bad. 

Jaguar effectively halted production of ALL of their cars, and that decision was made way before the ad campaign rolled out. Early 2024 to be specific. Jaguar intentionally ceased production of nearly all its internal combustion models months before launching its new ad campaign. That means dealerships had minimal or no inventory before the new ads even released. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60075224/jaguar-gas-cars-production-ending/ March 2024

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/business/jaguar-has-stopped-building-xe-xf-and-f-type-i-pace-and-e-pace-stop-decJuly 2024

the sales slump is due to a planned production hiatus until their EV line up is ready, that was inevitably going to affect the numbers in 2025. Now, whether we think this is a good business decision or a bad one is a separate matter, but it's clearly not tied to the ad campaign.

then you have the Jaguar Land Rover line that was heavily impacted by Trump's tariff, shipments to the US were paused for an entire month, and when shipments resumed, they started selling them at a higher price. Looking further, this doesn't seem to be relevant since the 97.5% decline you quoted doesn't include the Land Rover cars, which makes sense, the decline only affected cars that went into production hiatus. 

Happy to be corrected as I am not an expert, but really it doesn't seem like the cryptic online ad campaign wasn't all that significant. The ads were for cars that are not going to be ready until 2026 anyway, and they were released online months after the critical business decisions have been made.

Well I stand corrected. The Yahoo article I read didn't mention of the extenuating circimstances. So the long and short of it is the sales would tanked regardless due to production changes. I appreciate the information.

@crissindahouse My source was Yahoo Auto. It's my fault for not doing any further due diliigence than the initial article I read. That said, I clearly wasn't sourcing Twitter.

As for the actual topic. I still don't know how this is a thing. American Eagle used an attractive woman to sell there jeans. That's just a basic marketing tactic. Sydney Sweeney is currently the "it girl". The one people seemed focused on, so that's why it's her. In a few years, it'll be someone else. The discourse around this ad campaign makes it difficult for actual cases of bias to be taken seriously. 



xl-klaudkil said:

What,they never actually said great genes, just jeans?

Lol

Fucking.

LoL
People are so stupid and on edge nowadays crying over anything just to get attention.

Totally agree, you have to be far beyond thin skinned to be offended by a clothing company that says 'great jeans', because jeans sounds somewhat similar to genes. Being offended by that is beyond dumb and petty.

Even if the model is white, has blue eyes. I mean over half of Scandinavian women have the same traits and it's not exactly rare in US or EU for that matter either.

The reaction video where the word genes was crossed out for jeans was also beyond stupid though.

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Rob Flaherty who worked on the Kamala Harris campaign has an interesting opinion piece on it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/08/08/sydney-sweeney-republicans-win-media-ecosystem-00497761

Due to our current media ecosystem, these stories are extremely useful to the Republican party (and possibly other far-right parties). Even without a single elected democrat having talked about the ad or expressed outrage, republican influencers and media figures very effectively catapulted the outrage of 5-10 irrelevant Tik-Tokkers into being about “everything that’s wrong with the democratic party”. And suddenly everybody are talking about a jeans ad, discussing if it is offensive or not, instead of talking about a president who has been involved in human trafficking of underage girls for sex slavery.

We already got a fascist as president of the US, who is sending innocent people to concentration camps in foreign countries and supports ethnic cleansing of palestinians. There are enough real things to be discussing and be angry about, but the thing is, social media algorithms are engineered to make us focus on rubbish like this jeans ad.



Outrage to this ad is exactly why there was a red wave last year. People find this faux outrage silly, non important and laughable. Hardworking folks are more concerned with the economy then ads that can be racist via 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game playing.

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