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Norion said:

Yeah like almost everyone I overestimated the Xbox Series for this year towards the start. It keeps consistently underperforming expectations but that probably won't happen any more since people have understandably gotten really down on it lately. It looks like I'll have underestimated the PS5 and Switch, more so the latter due to expecting the successor to have released by now but I'll see just how off it'll end up being after the December numbers.

I wouldn't call it underestimation for the Switch, since pretty much everyone expected successor releasing by end of the year, me included. It is more like wrong estimation about the situation itself or Nintendo's real intentions as we can't know that. Underestimation for PS5 not so much, maybe one about the PS5 Pro, I also wasn't expecting so much of a boost, with a 700$ console.



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XtremeBG said:
Norion said:

Yeah like almost everyone I overestimated the Xbox Series for this year towards the start. It keeps consistently underperforming expectations but that probably won't happen any more since people have understandably gotten really down on it lately. It looks like I'll have underestimated the PS5 and Switch, more so the latter due to expecting the successor to have released by now but I'll see just how off it'll end up being after the December numbers.

I wouldn't call it underestimation for the Switch, since pretty much everyone expected successor releasing by end of the year, me included. It is more like wrong estimation about the situation itself or Nintendo's real intentions as we can't know that. Underestimation for PS5 not so much, maybe one about the PS5 Pro, I also wasn't expecting so much of a boost, with a 700$ console.

That's fair since it would've definitely been closer to 10m if it had released a couple months ago and for the PS5 it looks like it'll likely do 19m with some chance of it barely reaching 20m for the year so I might end up somewhat close with that one.



Numbers updated and adjusted with WEEK 49, 50, 51, 52 and 53 for every comparison!

Based on the latest data the following conclusions can be made:

  • XBOX Series 2024 vs Nintendo Switch 2024 in USA

The Switch pulled ahead with a nice lead of over 400k

  • Nintendo Switch vs PSP'07 (12.8M)

The Switch barely passed 12M and came close to the 2007 year of the PSP, which is achievement for 8th year of the console.

  • PlayStation 5 vs Nintendo Switch'19 (19.3M)

PS5 finished barely short of the NSW'19 with almost 18.7M

  • XBOX Series vs XB360'13 (6.3M) vs XB1'20 (4M)

XBOX Series finished in the middle of those two - at 5M. Better than expected I would say, when in the middle of the year there were weeks as low as 50k.

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JRPGfan said:

PS5 ~ 20-22m
Switch ~8-12m
Xbox S X/S ~ 6-7m

I can see all 3 being towards the lower ends of those estimates.
Like I wouldn't be shocked if xbox only sells 6m consoles this year, or if Switch only does like 8m (since Switch 2 is comeing).

Ooooff......

PS5 under 19m (~18.7) 
Switch at 12m         
Xbox under 5m (~4.9)

I was off by a good bit there.


Also.... Switch 2 never came.
Supposedly production started in september (at some partners) and early november (for foxcon), 2024.
Anyways, come March this year (2025), they should have like 2m+ units ready to go for launch or something.

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Norion said:

PS5: 18m
Switch: 10m
Xbox Series: 7m.

It's likely all three end up being down this year. Xbox Series has Activision Blizzard games being added to Game Pass and hopefully a better received game lineup to help it be closer to 8m than 7m but even with that I wouldn't be surprised if it's still down a tad.

I was expecting below 18m after a middling few months and after November was expecting above 19m but in the end I was pretty spot on with the PS5 with my first prediction it seems. The Switch was a fair amount off due to me expecting the Switch 2 to have released by November so that isn't too bad but man I really overestimated the Xbox Series and my prediction for it wasn't even above average or anything like that, it just did really badly last year so basically everyone overestimated it. Overall I think my predictions for 2024 held up alright.

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?



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Norion said:
Norion said:

PS5: 18m
Switch: 10m
Xbox Series: 7m.

It's likely all three end up being down this year. Xbox Series has Activision Blizzard games being added to Game Pass and hopefully a better received game lineup to help it be closer to 8m than 7m but even with that I wouldn't be surprised if it's still down a tad.

I was expecting below 18m after a middling few months and after November was expecting above 19m but in the end I was pretty spot on with the PS5 with my first prediction it seems. The Switch was a fair amount off due to me expecting the Switch 2 to have released by November so that isn't too bad but man I really overestimated the Xbox Series and my prediction for it wasn't even above average or anything like that, it just did really badly last year so basically everyone overestimated it. Overall I think my predictions for 2024 held up alright.

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?

"Overall I think my predictions for 2024 held up alright."

You were closer than i was :) 



JRPGfan said:
Norion said:

I was expecting below 18m after a middling few months and after November was expecting above 19m but in the end I was pretty spot on with the PS5 with my first prediction it seems. The Switch was a fair amount off due to me expecting the Switch 2 to have released by November so that isn't too bad but man I really overestimated the Xbox Series and my prediction for it wasn't even above average or anything like that, it just did really badly last year so basically everyone overestimated it. Overall I think my predictions for 2024 held up alright.

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?

"Overall I think my predictions for 2024 held up alright."

You were closer than i was :) 

You were closer than most with Xbox Series at least.



Norion said:

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?

Of course, I am at the peak of my energy. Threads like these from me will be available for a long time going ahead. I am like entering 2020 for the Switch or 2007 for the DS

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Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 140M+ Club Chart

Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX

XtremeBG said:
Norion said:

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?

Of course, I am at the peak of my energy. Threads like these from me will be available for a long time going ahead. I am like entering 2020 for the Switch or 2007 for the DS

Your threads are pretty useful so that's nice, do keep up the good work.



Norion said:

Also are you gonna do a thread like this for 2025 @XtremeBG?

It's up - Ultimate Console Showdown 2025.



My primary threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 140M+ Club Chart

Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX