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XtremeBG said:
Phenomajp13 said:

@XtremeBG I hate to do this but literally that same day you specifically mention Switch selling 2 million. That post literally stated you expected PS5 to outsell Switch (3 million for PS5 and 2 million for Switch. I have called you out for this before, low balling Switch and then being dishonest about your initial prediction. The poster correctly stated your first prediction was 2 million, are you denying that? We know you moved your prediction up, that's ok but was your initial prediction 2 million or no? Below is what you said.

XtremeBG: I can see the very likely scenario of PS5 doing around 3M and NSW 2M.

Yes, that comment I did. but saying that I can see a very likely scenario isn't a prediction. if so then saying I can't see it doing more than 3M also should be a prediction from your logic, and changing it just hours or day later does not make sense. I remember that before the data for 2024 started to go up I said 2M, and when I saw it doing decently I put the range to 3M, and again at that point in time pretty much everyone including me expected release of Switch 2 in 2024. Therefore knowing successor is releasing even sales as 2M is not so unreasonable or pessimistic, coming from 3.9M the previous year. And this is not excuse as you are always calling it, I am simply saying it's not low ball cuz if you know successor is coming (and if really did in 2024) I guarantee you the sales wouldn't be and can't be 3M or close to it. They would drop to at least 2.5M or 2M. But yea to answer you question, I am not denying that I saw it as likely scenario and I even wrote it somewhere, but putting DS's year comparison at almost 3M for the whole year, since the start, means that I saw it way more likely doing something close to 3M in the end, instead of 2M.

Ooh and about that debate you remember how it ended ? You apologising to me since you haven't seen my comment about adjusting my initial prediction for last year (which I haven't denied) to 4M ? And doing whole full debate out of this just because you didn't wrote your homework ..

So the poster was right and you initially said 2 million. It's ok buddy! That's all we needed here. 



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Phenomajp13 said:

So the poster was right and you initially said 2 million. It's ok buddy! That's all we needed here. 

I am looking out for our next debate with you. It's like a morning fresh to me

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 28 December 2024

My primary threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Best holiday months / When will the Switch pass 160M? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX / Switch 2

XtremeBG said:
Phenomajp13 said:

So the poster was right and you initially said 2 million. It's ok buddy! That's all we needed here. 

I am looking out for our next debate with you. It's like a morning fresh to me

Don't worry it'll be classic. Switch surpassing PS2 guarantees it's incredible potential. 



XtremeBG said:
psychicscubadiver said:

Wasn't expecting a full paragraph in response to a mild joke, and I'm not trying to say that prediction is some unforgivable sin, but you literally did predict 2 million.
Here in this thread where I made the 2.5-3 million prediction. https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/247954/famitsu-sales-week-52-amp-53-2023-dec-18-dec-31/1/

Ooooh sorry .. pardon me, I must have lost my sence of humour, since exchanging posts with @Phenomajp13 .

Yep, I remember that, and I remember your comment on that too. I just made a post about it haha.

Well for the new year - 2025, here is it saying it in my thread, I expect to finish in the range of 1.5M to 2M. Hope this not looks pessimistic or lowballing to @Phenomajp13 

No problem.
In regards to 2025, a lot rides on when exactly Nintendo announces and releases Switch 2. I'm thinking they'll do a Jan/Feb announcement then a release in summer and the Switch will do 1.5 million for the year. But if they don't release until holiday it could do 2 million. I don't think they'll wait that long so I'd favor the lower total, but 1.5-2 million is a good range.



psychicscubadiver said:
XtremeBG said:

Ooooh sorry .. pardon me, I must have lost my sence of humour, since exchanging posts with @Phenomajp13 .

Yep, I remember that, and I remember your comment on that too. I just made a post about it haha.

Well for the new year - 2025, here is it saying it in my thread, I expect to finish in the range of 1.5M to 2M. Hope this not looks pessimistic or lowballing to @Phenomajp13 

No problem.
In regards to 2025, a lot rides on when exactly Nintendo announces and releases Switch 2. I'm thinking they'll do a Jan/Feb announcement then a release in summer and the Switch will do 1.5 million for the year. But if they don't release until holiday it could do 2 million. I don't think they'll wait that long so I'd favor the lower total, but 1.5-2 million is a good range.

Hey!! Acording to firebush03 Nintendo has already announced the Switch "2" officially!!😅 The current Switch will sell much more than 1,5 million in 2025!! 1,5 million? I am expecting at least 1- 2 million in 2026!!



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killer7 said:
psychicscubadiver said:

No problem.
In regards to 2025, a lot rides on when exactly Nintendo announces and releases Switch 2. I'm thinking they'll do a Jan/Feb announcement then a release in summer and the Switch will do 1.5 million for the year. But if they don't release until holiday it could do 2 million. I don't think they'll wait that long so I'd favor the lower total, but 1.5-2 million is a good range.

Hey!! Acording to firebush03 Nintendo has already announced the Switch "2" officially!!😅 The current Switch will sell much more than 1,5 million in 2025!! 1,5 million? I am expecting at least 1- 2 million in 2026!!

Oh, I was talking about Japan only. Worldwide, it's tough to call but I'll venture to say 6-7M with a summer release and 7-8M with a holiday release for 2025.



psychicscubadiver said:
killer7 said:

Hey!! Acording to firebush03 Nintendo has already announced the Switch "2" officially!!😅 The current Switch will sell much more than 1,5 million in 2025!! 1,5 million? I am expecting at least 1- 2 million in 2026!!

Oh, I was talking about Japan only. Worldwide, it's tough to call but I'll venture to say 6-7M with a summer release and 7-8M with a holiday release for 2025.

Ah ok. I thought you where talking about ww. WW i am a bit more pessemistic and see 4-6 million but thats te floor. 2026/27 i can see 1- 2 million minimum. 6-8 million? Maybe but that might be a stretch. How couod it sell 6-8 million?



Switch will have the bonus of getting Pokemon Legends Z-A next year, which will be the biggest release in the Japanese market next year, that should keep the Switch legs fairly steady in Japan at least.



Sephiran said:

Switch will have the bonus of getting Pokemon Legends Z-A next year, which will be the biggest release in the Japanese market next year, that should keep the Switch legs fairly steady in Japan at least.

Pokémon Z-A won't launch before September i think, most likley even November. So far we got 3 First Party games for the Switch confirmed for 2025: Prof. Layton, MP4B and Pokémon Z-A. If we go by years we can add Xenoblade Chronicles X. And that was not all. There will be more first party titles on Switch. I am sure there will be some cross gen titles too well into 2026 as well. I would not even be surprised if one of the mentioned games was to be moved in (march) 2026, excluding Xenoblade of course. First Party games should release till (march) 2027 or at least 2026. Hard and Software support (3rd party) till march 2027 at least is 100%!



Sounds like people just like to be right even if it’s an offshoot of right.

I understand that this may not be the best place to ask this but I was rather confused on why we didn’t get a November monthly Europe console unit sales page? If we have one I’d like to get to it.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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