If they announce the next console soon. Phil Spencer may as well just say Saturn is not our future...sorry I mean Series X is not our future. I had flashbacks to 1998 Bernie Stolar for a second.

You'd probably have to read my post again because my take is simply to not wage useless numbers of games around for the overall far-flung future when what matters is the current calendar releases, you know, the stuff that's actually suppose to come out and that will push hardware sell.

In that sense, all 3 publishers have their titles coming in for the first half of the next year.

So no I can't agree with you because by default, I do not share your software priorities.

And like I said, unless what is on offer is capable of moving the hardware needle, then no, wavering the flag of numerous software "in-developpement" means nothing be it a known title or not.

Just posted this in another thread but it is applicable to this point.

MS announced 11 titles in the lead-up and 1st year of this generation, only 4 of them have been released as of now.
Sony announced 11 titles, 10 of which are now released. As you say having a gigantic list of titles that will come at some point means nothing. It's a large list because they've been so slow at getting them out the door they just pile-up unreleased.

It's more important to actually release games then just have 10+ games announced but not out.

I agree. When Xbox initially released they targeted hardcore PC gamers, especially in the shooter area with Halo and Gears. And despite what people say, the original Xbox and the brand was successful - in a way. Xbox brought Achievements, Internet play (not entirely new, but for the first time on a broader scale on console), DLC, game updates. In a way PS5 now looks more like the original Xbox than the PS2. So Xbox was and is influential, yet it did not realize in numbers. But at this point PS has adapted everything the Xbox introduced and excels at it. No point in doubling down, Xbox need to change to be relevant.

My suggestion would be: go for a family console. I think that matches well with Gamepass. A family can have a box under the TV, that plays games, and Gamepass games. Each member can pick a game on a whim and either play it after a download or start right away with streaming. No need to purchase, as they have a Gamepass subscription. The kid comes home from school and plays some kid game (a new and good Viva Pinata, a new Spyro or Skylanders, Minecraft or a Minecraft spinoff, Grounded, a new Banjo, or some new IP). The whole family gets together to play together (MS needs some sort of Mario Kart or Mario Party game - best have both). The father plays something like Hellblade, Pentiment, Diablo, Starfield or Pillars of Eternity in the evening. The mother maybe some cozy farming sim or romantic visual novel (MS needs both). Both parents together play something in the style of It Takes Two. All of the games come off the Gamepass subscription, with streaming they can be played instantly after selecting a game on a whim.

That all doesn't mean they should abandon their current customers, they can have a second (more powerful) box for these and still have COD and Halo.

Also to mention: I think MS is also eyeing the mobile market, I think that was a big part of why they bought Activision. Currently the gaming on mobile is dominated by single breakout games, but what if that model changes? Netflix is already there, if you have the Netflix app and a subscription, you can play a catalogue of games right away. MS could have something similar with a Xbox app or a specific Gamepass app and a Gamepass sub (poossibly with a special mobile tier).

I don't think going for more power is going very well currently. There are certainly indications the current AAA productions are in trouble, signified by the massive layoffs. Games got too expensive to produce and too many are going after always the same models - if a game is successful 10 big companies try to copy that model as an AAA game. Given that game development at this level now take six years or longer, they arrive mostly once the hype is over. So you get a lot of failing AAA games: Forspoken, Immortals af Aveum, Babylons Fall, Redfall and so on. This is not sustainable. The big companies need to change and I think the hunt for the best in graphics has to end. That also is at a point, where new advancements in chip tech is no longer a given and prices stay stable or even increase. I think betting on the most powerful system next gen might be not the best choice. Especially since the power hungry gamers are already mostly aligned with PS anyways and will pick it even if the XBox ends up being a bit more powerful. And much more powerful will not work, as the tech is not available at a reasonable price.

Who in this thread is disagreeing with you? Lol. That's why it's tired. Once again, they had a solid year in game releases this year. They have a nice lineup of games already lined up for next year. Their lineup being weak is a personal opinion, not a fact. Ps5 was selling this year even when they had no big 1st party games until Spiderman 2. Xbox had more consistent releases all year. At the end of the day, ps5 is able to sell huge numbers off brand power alone, while Xbox doesn't have that luxury. Expect Xbox to match this is simply unrealistic. 

Xbox could ride it out. Is releasing in 2026 vs 2027 really going to make a difference in regaining trust? As long as Xbox has consistent releases between now and then, this is more important. 

Nope, I don't want to hear/see anything about a new Xbox until 2027 at the earliest and not released until 2028. I saw someone mention ballooning development costs as a reason that we should be waiting for as long as possible for a new Xbox (and PlayStation for that matter) and that's a very good point.

Ehh sure early on, but what does Playstation have coming out next year? Sony announced several games at their showcase this year with no release date.  Hellblade 2 and Avowed are next year for xbox along with 3 other 1st party games not from this list. Xbox has a nice lineup of games to look forward to between 2024-2026. Games just take too long to make now. Sony is in a similar spot themselves right now that MS was in to start the gen.

Maybe the person who made this should update it each year instead of the one year that is convient for their argument. 

Would be interesting to see you add the Switch 1st party game announcements list in a similar time frame just to add perspective here.

Edit : 

Btw, didn't Xbox announce the Perfect Dark reboot by The Initiative Studio and Crystal Dynamics in 2020 which was allegedly in dev hell and also announced to be "years from now" last summer. Another one to add in your list 👌

Ignoring the 3rd party exclusives we have the following PlayStation published titles next year: Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade & Concord. Whether any of the TBA titles from Sony end up as 2024 I cannot say but we know Marathon is 2025.

I was just quoting someone to add to their point about the time between announcement and release which Mar1217 posted about. Typically major AAA Xbox titles are announced over 3 years before they release, which isn't uncommon for the industry as a whole these days but is generally longer than the typical Nintendo/Sony game. With notable exceptions being Metroid Prime 4, Zelda Mainline titles and Wolverine. But they are the exception for those platforms, not the norm.