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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 25) Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - June 18 - June 24, 2018

zorg1000 on 27 June 2018
Mnementh said:
Acevil said:

Meh:
Both PS4 and Switch are at their baseline which is a bit puzzling, given new software.
Train wreck said:

The narrative was that Mario Tennis + Minecraft + the summer Switch release schedule + the positive E3 effect was going to increase the Switch baseline starting this week.  It didnt, people just want to know why.

Well, I was under the impression baseline for Switch was 40K. Why did I get the impression...

nero said:

Ah yes, because 40K was the sales Switch dipped down to in slow weeks without release. With shortages around golden week even a bit less.

So yes, I would say Switch is above baseline this week.

I was about to bring this up, it went 5 weeks in the ~35-40k range but all of a sudden 48k is the baseline?



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Mnementh on 27 June 2018
Acevil said:
Mnementh said:

Well, I was under the impression baseline for Switch was 40K. Why did I get the impression...

Ah yes, because 40K was the sales Switch dipped down to in slow weeks without release. With shortages around golden week even a bit less.

So yes, I would say Switch is above baseline this week.

I should have worded it a bit differently. I should have said PS4 is at the baseline and Switch is the same as last week, which is what I would like Switches baseline to be. 

Ah, this makes more sense. And to your wish: I'm sure after Pokemon and Smash the baseline next year will be higher.



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quickrick on 27 June 2018
PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

yea its funny how he's amazed, whats amazing is ps4 is this close to switch, and MHW was such a huge hit. everybody knew switch was gonna destroy ps4 sales this year.

Last I checked the year isnt over, and you may have heard of a few killer apps such as Yokai Watch, Pokemon, and Smash. Enjoy pontificating while you can

I'm talking about this year so far. i already know switch will outsell ps4 by 2 million the whole year. just funny hearing someone make expectations about how MHW should have sold more in japan, and moved more hardware, when literally  blew every single prediction  i have seen on resetera, and vgchartz out of the water.



Acevil on 27 June 2018
Mnementh said:
Acevil said:

PS4 is doing meh, but it isn't awful.

I think PS4 does pretty well actually. Sure, it is no PS2, DS or even PSP. But it does pretty good. This is shown by the fact, that pretty much every japan-centric game is releasing on PS4, even as PSV-support is dwindling. That shows PS4 is a relevant device in Japan. Yes, it took a while to get there, but it is now. And sales are fine I think. The device is years old, it is probably behind it's peak, so these sales are very fine. That there is a new device that sells more currently shouldn't let us conclude PS4 does bad. On the contrary, while I see the hit 3DS and PSV took since the Switch released, the PS4-sales proofed to be stable against the influence of the competitor.

I do mean in current weeks. I think the current sales are bit concerning as well if the baseline does decline further. I think it is doing meh overall as well, not bad but not good for the health of the dedicated gaming market. Given it is some what inevitable to see decline in that space. 




 

kopstudent89 on 27 June 2018
Green098 said:

Media Create

[N64] Mario Tennis (Nintendo) {2000.07.21} (¥6.800) - 319.434 / 1.065.469
[GMB] Mario Tennis GB |GameBoy Color| (Nintendo) {2000.11.01} (¥3.800) - 143.871 / 334.741
[GBA] Mario Tennis: Power Tour (Nintendo) {2005.09.13} (¥3.618) - 33.870 / 114.599 <42,49%>
[3DS] Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.571) - 101.645 / 396.604 <51,19%>
[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash (Nintendo) {2016.01.28} (¥4.700) - 55.331 / 139.405 <73,01%>
[3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo Selects] (Nintendo) {2016.09.15} (¥2.700) - 1.586 / 17.410 <9,47%>
[NSW] Mario Tennis Aces (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} (¥5.980) - 123.774

[360] Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2013.06.06} (¥1.980) - 4.268 / 30.858 <76.19%>
[XB1] Minecraft: Xbox One Edition # (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.11.27} (¥2.000)- 324 / 3.178 <18,14%>
[PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 36.151 / 1.276.619 <60,37%>
[PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400) - 4.630 / 150.221 <21,90%>
[WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600)- 22.589 / 257.654 <49,59%>
[NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 61.764

[PS3] Gundam Breaker (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.27} (¥7.600) - 200.564 / 269.752 <83.54%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker # (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.31} (¥6.648) - 33.775 / 91.731 <68.64%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥6.640) - 57.188 / 140.808 <76.07%>
[PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥7.600) - 66.532 / 125.382 <72.09%>
[PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 Omochidashi Pack {PlayStation 3 PlayStation Vita} (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥11.800) - 5.150 / 5.444 <80.00%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.03.03} (¥6.800) - 74.639 / 124.226 <87,99%>
[PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.03.03} (¥7.600) - 66.580 / 95.492 <93,33%>
[PS4] New Gundam Breaker # (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.06.21} (¥7.600) - 63.790

Great job! There's also the GC and Wii versions for Mario Tennis. 



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zorg1000 on 27 June 2018
quickrick said:
OTBWY said:

A game like Mario Tennis is not expected to push hardware, MHW is. Yet, a system without it, still outsold it. Without "big" games you could say. There is your answer.

And who didn't expect that? switch was suppose to destroy ps4 by this time of the year, literally every one thought this.

Umm it is?

Sales up to week 7

PS4-558k

NSW-405k

Sales since since 7

PS4-482k

NSW-761k



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ZODIARKrebirth on 27 June 2018

great numbers for switch, good numbers for ps4, better like in the beginning where the ps4 was always in the 5 - 6000 range



NoCtiS_NoX on 27 June 2018
OTBWY said:

Whatever you say bossman. All I was doing is stay true to my expectations, which were mine and mine alone.

So you expected the pS4 to sell 356,625  in 4 weeks and 3 Million for MHW in Japan? If so then show me proof of that? 
Even with my optimism with the game it shattered all my expectation in just 1 week with DD sales. 



quickrick on 27 June 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

And who didn't expect that? switch was suppose to destroy ps4 by this time of the year, literally every one thought this.

Umm it is?

Sales up to week 7

PS4-558k

NSW-405k

Sales since since 7

PS4-482k

NSW-761k

i'm talking about 2018 total sales.



OTBWY on 27 June 2018
NoCtiS_NoX said:
OTBWY said:

Whatever you say bossman. All I was doing is stay true to my expectations, which were mine and mine alone.

So you expected the pS4 to sell 356,625  in 4 weeks and 3 Million for MHW in Japan? If so then show me proof of that? 
Even with my optimism with the game it shattered all my expectation in just 1 week with DD sales. 

Ok since you want to continue on about this. I expected the PS4 to have A: a higher baseline (I don't believe the shortages went on that long) and B: MHW to still appear in the charts (cause I don't believe it's only selling digitally now). So in essence, sell longer (A wider mountain so to speak) with the added effect of moving more consoles than usual. That is all.