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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 25) Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - June 18 - June 24, 2018

quickrick said:
Megiddo said:

Exactly, this is Japan. Home consoles are dead. Everyone knows this. Even Nintendo, which is why their idea of a home console is a portable with an HDMI port. Sony has long given up on Japan and that's why they're seeing enormous success in the west.

yea its funny how he's amazed, whats amazing is ps4 is this close to switch, and MHW was such a huge hit. everybody knew switch was gonna destroy ps4 sales this year.

Last I checked the year isnt over, and you may have heard of a few killer apps such as Yokai Watch, Pokemon, and Smash. Enjoy pontificating while you can



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Acevil said:

PS4 is doing meh, but it isn't awful.

I think PS4 does pretty well actually. Sure, it is no PS2, DS or even PSP. But it does pretty good. This is shown by the fact, that pretty much every japan-centric game is releasing on PS4, even as PSV-support is dwindling. That shows PS4 is a relevant device in Japan. Yes, it took a while to get there, but it is now. And sales are fine I think. The device is years old, it is probably behind it's peak, so these sales are very fine. That there is a new device that sells more currently shouldn't let us conclude PS4 does bad. On the contrary, while I see the hit 3DS and PSV took since the Switch released, the PS4-sales proofed to be stable against the influence of the competitor.



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Acevil said:
OTBWY said:

You and me both.

Which brings me to my next question. WHERE IS MY GUNDAM MUSOU?!?!

No clue. Those games are copy past + add new suits anyway. So I have no idea.



Mnementh said:
Acevil said:

Meh:
Both PS4 and Switch are at their baseline which is a bit puzzling, given new software.

Train wreck said:

The narrative was that Mario Tennis + Minecraft + the summer Switch release schedule + the positive E3 effect was going to increase the Switch baseline starting this week.  It didnt, people just want to know why.

Well, I was under the impression baseline for Switch was 40K. Why did I get the impression...

nero said:

Ah yes, because 40K was the sales Switch dipped down to in slow weeks without release. With shortages around golden week even a bit less.

So yes, I would say Switch is above baseline this week.

I was about to bring this up, it went 5 weeks in the ~35-40k range but all of a sudden 48k is the baseline?



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Acevil said:
Mnementh said:

Well, I was under the impression baseline for Switch was 40K. Why did I get the impression...

Ah yes, because 40K was the sales Switch dipped down to in slow weeks without release. With shortages around golden week even a bit less.

So yes, I would say Switch is above baseline this week.

I should have worded it a bit differently. I should have said PS4 is at the baseline and Switch is the same as last week, which is what I would like Switches baseline to be. 

Ah, this makes more sense. And to your wish: I'm sure after Pokemon and Smash the baseline next year will be higher.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

yea its funny how he's amazed, whats amazing is ps4 is this close to switch, and MHW was such a huge hit. everybody knew switch was gonna destroy ps4 sales this year.

Last I checked the year isnt over, and you may have heard of a few killer apps such as Yokai Watch, Pokemon, and Smash. Enjoy pontificating while you can

I'm talking about this year so far. i already know switch will outsell ps4 by 2 million the whole year. just funny hearing someone make expectations about how MHW should have sold more in japan, and moved more hardware, when literally  blew every single prediction  i have seen on resetera, and vgchartz out of the water.



Mnementh said:
Acevil said:

PS4 is doing meh, but it isn't awful.

I think PS4 does pretty well actually. Sure, it is no PS2, DS or even PSP. But it does pretty good. This is shown by the fact, that pretty much every japan-centric game is releasing on PS4, even as PSV-support is dwindling. That shows PS4 is a relevant device in Japan. Yes, it took a while to get there, but it is now. And sales are fine I think. The device is years old, it is probably behind it's peak, so these sales are very fine. That there is a new device that sells more currently shouldn't let us conclude PS4 does bad. On the contrary, while I see the hit 3DS and PSV took since the Switch released, the PS4-sales proofed to be stable against the influence of the competitor.

I do mean in current weeks. I think the current sales are bit concerning as well if the baseline does decline further. I think it is doing meh overall as well, not bad but not good for the health of the dedicated gaming market. Given it is some what inevitable to see decline in that space. 




 

Green098 said:

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[N64] Mario Tennis (Nintendo) {2000.07.21} (¥6.800) - 319.434 / 1.065.469
[GMB] Mario Tennis GB |GameBoy Color| (Nintendo) {2000.11.01} (¥3.800) - 143.871 / 334.741
[GBA] Mario Tennis: Power Tour (Nintendo) {2005.09.13} (¥3.618) - 33.870 / 114.599 <42,49%>
[3DS] Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.571) - 101.645 / 396.604 <51,19%>
[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash (Nintendo) {2016.01.28} (¥4.700) - 55.331 / 139.405 <73,01%>
[3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo Selects] (Nintendo) {2016.09.15} (¥2.700) - 1.586 / 17.410 <9,47%>
[NSW] Mario Tennis Aces (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} (¥5.980) - 123.774

[360] Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2013.06.06} (¥1.980) - 4.268 / 30.858 <76.19%>
[XB1] Minecraft: Xbox One Edition # (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.11.27} (¥2.000)- 324 / 3.178 <18,14%>
[PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 36.151 / 1.276.619 <60,37%>
[PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400) - 4.630 / 150.221 <21,90%>
[WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600)- 22.589 / 257.654 <49,59%>
[NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 61.764

[PS3] Gundam Breaker (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.27} (¥7.600) - 200.564 / 269.752 <83.54%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker # (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.31} (¥6.648) - 33.775 / 91.731 <68.64%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥6.640) - 57.188 / 140.808 <76.07%>
[PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥7.600) - 66.532 / 125.382 <72.09%>
[PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 Omochidashi Pack {PlayStation 3 PlayStation Vita} (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.12.18} (¥11.800) - 5.150 / 5.444 <80.00%>
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.03.03} (¥6.800) - 74.639 / 124.226 <87,99%>
[PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.03.03} (¥7.600) - 66.580 / 95.492 <93,33%>
[PS4] New Gundam Breaker # (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.06.21} (¥7.600) - 63.790

Great job! There's also the GC and Wii versions for Mario Tennis. 



quickrick said:
OTBWY said:

A game like Mario Tennis is not expected to push hardware, MHW is. Yet, a system without it, still outsold it. Without "big" games you could say. There is your answer.

And who didn't expect that? switch was suppose to destroy ps4 by this time of the year, literally every one thought this.

Umm it is?

Sales up to week 7

PS4-558k

NSW-405k

Sales since since 7

PS4-482k

NSW-761k



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Megiddo said:
OTBWY said:

I don't believe this for one second, otherwise Sony would not do Japan only exclusivity deals.

They do Asia-only exclusivity deals. I don't think I've heard of a Japan only exclusivity deal.

Also, what Nintendo release do you think is above Mario Tennis as far as releases after Mario Odyssey but before Super Mario Party go?

Kirby.



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