Will Switch outsell DS? PS2? Or Neither? (March 2024 Update Poll)

[XtremeBG]

Phenomajp13 said:

Accurate data (Nintendo's quarterly reports) is wayyyy better than estimates. Vgchartz data is a reference and Nintendo's data are facts. Thank you for confirming you really don't know what you are talking about. Shipments are not determined by Nintendo, what a silly thing to say. Retailers are ordering/purchasing from Nintendo based on consumer trends/their (retailer) data. Thats why the shipments are sold to retailers and Nintendo makes their money at the shipment/sold phase. Consumers directly determine shipments just like they determine sellthrough, the difference is sellthrough is estimated and you don't get to determine the data is only 1% off. The conversation was about shipments, so vgchartz data should be just a reference that isn't perfect in aligning with Nintendo's shipments which are fact!

I simply didn't gave a full detailed explanation about it. My point was, that you first see the sales for the given week or month, and depending on when the quarter ends, it can be up to 3 months later, when you see that official report. Of course the Nintendo data is more accurate, it's 100%. But you have to pay the price of waiting, and the price of calculating anything for 3 months data, when it's easier and more convenient to calculate it right away for given week or month without waiting for nothing. Seeing the data on the moment not waiting one company to put the report once every three months. VGChartz data is not a lie though it's basically the same as the true numbers and the facts you are talking about.

Shipments are not direclty determined by Nintendo but the difference between sold and shipped is determined by them and the retailers, either way it's not the consumer who determine that. Yes the consumer is the driving thing since the shipments are done around the interest, but for you to be able to see what consumer interest is with the shipped data you have to wait up to 3 full months to see it, where as the sold data you see almost right away when the month is done. That's about what was based my previous post on. Not the exactly full detailed description of what "shipments" are. I get to determine the data. Everyone who uses the site and checks the adjustments everytime can determine that. Trunks also have come out numerous times and talked about this. I am not getting things out of my a** here. The conversation was about sales. Go back and check and read the comment I first replied to, and see that it was about sales if you talk about this. VGchartz can be a reference to all conversations about sales that we all make around here too. And everyone can choose how to approach such conversations, about what regions, what consoles, or sold or shipped data. The people are here because they want data on the moment, not because they can go look over the web for the quarter reports. Otherwise this website wouldn't exist. Yes there are other things on it as well, but this is the main thing it's about.

killer7 said:

First of all, where did i ever said that the Switch would pass 160 million is a given? I said 155 million LTD is a lowballed floor. I never said it would sure beat the PS2. About Jim Ryan: I am dead serious in what i write. Shawn Laydon as well. If a grown up man printed a fantasy number on my private PSP (exactly 1 million above the GB) just to feel better thats what i think is funny, somehow childish. Why not tell us back in 2014 when the PSP was discontinued?

Back to topic: We have to wait for the Quater report to get a better picture on whats happening. 155 million and hardware production including software support both physical and digital till march 2027 is a given and the absolute floor. I DO NOT say the Switch will pass the PS2, i just did not exclude the possibility.

I thought I saw somewhere you wrote something about 160M path for the Switch. I maybe mistaken then. About Shawn Layden, yes I know why you think so it's just funny to me the approach you have. But yeah, I agree. They could go out and announce back in 2012 or 2013 that number. No need to write it on systems or say it 10 years later on a podcast.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 24 January 2025