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Mar1217 on 06 December 2025
Norion said:
Sephiran said:

The point is, that if Nintendo sells 19-20M Switch 2 consoles this fiscal year, Europe will make up around 4M of that number. Which means that European sales paint a very small picture of Switch 2 global sales. Its important to point this out because fairly soon when Nintendo drops their next earnings report everyone on gaming forums will be chocked by Switch 2 sales, because they think Europe plays a more important role when it comes to Switch 2 sales than it does in reality.

It'll be above 19-20m but either way that would be higher than the amount of Switch 1's shipped to Europe in its first 9 months so why are you being so negative about how the Switch 2 is doing there? It's objectively selling well there so far. And I quite doubt people will be shocked by its performance in Europe but we'll see.

I think in his mind, the overperformance of the PS5 and the lower ratio for the Switch 2 in this important period might mean that there's an inherent problem with Nintendo's offering ... Despite the fact and the sales numbers demonstrating that this is simply not true. 

One console is doing well(or great even) but it's competitior is doing even better numbers ! Therefore the former must actually be struggling/doing something bad with its current sales strategies.

I think this is the logic with which he stands currently, which is not supported in reality by comparative numbers to what Nintendo usually does in the Euro market. 

Honestly, that attitude borderlines on "concern trolling". But that's prolly going too far.



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Norion on 06 December 2025
Mar1217 said:
Norion said:

It'll be above 19-20m but either way that would be higher than the amount of Switch 1's shipped to Europe in its first 9 months so why are you being so negative about how the Switch 2 is doing there? It's objectively selling well there so far. And I quite doubt people will be shocked by its performance in Europe but we'll see.

I think in his mind, the overperformance of the PS5 and the lower ratio for the Switch 2 in this important period might mean that there's an inherent problem with Nintendo's offering ... Despite the fact and the sales numbers demonstrating that this is simply not true. 

One console is doing well(or great even) but it's competitior is doing even better numbers ! Therefore the former must actually be struggling/doing something bad with its current sales strategies.

I think this is the logic with which he stands currently, which is not supported in reality by comparative numbers to what Nintendo usually does in the Euro market. 

Honestly, that attitude borderlines on "concern trolling". But that's prolly going too far.

I don't get how this keeps happening when an older console selling better than a new one at first is a normal thing since consoles peak in the middle of their lives usually. Like this is probably gonna be the PS5's best holiday season in Europe yet thanks to great deals on it so of course it's vastly outselling the Switch 2 there lately.



leo-j on 06 December 2025
Zippy6 said:
PotentHerbs said:

Are PS5's being discounted until the end of the year?

We could be looking at a 10M+ quarter if that's the case. Sony's going to exceed their current FY projection (15M) unless the PS5 really underperforms for the holidays. 

IDK about 10m quarter. The discounts are big in EU but USA hasn't had as good deals. I don't think USA will be up YoY.

The discounts are till the 18th in the UK.

PS5 is still on sale in the US $100 off in December as of today. 



 

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BraLoD on 06 December 2025
firebush03 said:
BraLoD said:

Maybe try hearing a bit more.

Can't be blamed by you building your own version of me.

As far as I remember, some of my last posts here in this forums were some plain sales predictions, bringijg news of improvements on the Dualsense, being extremely happy with Tokon beta, trying to help someone with a Switch 2 problem, being sad with companies trying to consolidate even further, being happy about you making potential friends in your own thread about Christianity, giving my mind about someone not buying a gun to end himself in a thread he made about the world turning to shit and he potentally losing his job, etc.

I'm one to try to be realistic, and to be happy with sharing passion, and even helping, until otherwise provoked.

But I'm not one to be happy with being slapped with the left hand and later being offered the right hand to get up. Nor to be happy about people being assholes or disingenuous.

You can see it here as well, even as your post was personally provocative when nothing from me was aimed at you, and I could just type the first two sentences and let it go, here I am giving some content to help you as a simple profile search could do as well.

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Oops! Doesn’t seem like you took that message too well. I’m sorry dude :( I can see how my previous message may have come off a bit rude/provocative. I guess I was basing that comment off my previous interactions with you, i.e. (i) complaining about Pokémon Legends Z-A DLC being revealed prior to launch and (ii) you’re vocalness in condemning GF for choosing GKC for Pokopia.

(though you could certainly still benefit from just a biiiiit less negativity. :) No point in getting so worked up over such little things like the cost of your gaming box (esp if you have already purchased it) …btw the smiley face isn’t intended to be disingenuous, but is to make my hopefully message come off a little more friendly.)

I'm mostly realistic, there is nothing to be optimistic about the Pokémon Legends ZA DLC situation (which doesn't mean the content can not be good, Legends ZA was fun) or a company selling a download key inside a physical cart instead of the game content. Taking that as the base to tell me I'm always negative and should change is... not really smart. Softly doubling down on it now, even less.

Also, you have interacted with me (or me with you) in other threads, one of them being a very good thread as I pointed above. Which you choose to left out now in your reply too.

There is no other way to see your approach to me other than provocative as it does not reflect reality and lacks even minimal research before choosing to go for personal confrontation.

I have personally nothing against you, but also neither have the will to not reply accordingly to things like that.

To make the point clear, I do not believe you did not want this kind of reply, which could be a lot worse, thats the intention your comment carries.

I do believe you often have good intentions because that's what I have gathered from you in many other posts, but that's not how I see the case here.



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firebush03 on 06 December 2025
BraLoD said:

I'm mostly realistic, there is nothing to be optimistic about the Pokémon Legends ZA DLC situation (which doesn't mean the content can not be good, Legends ZA was fun) or a company selling a download key inside a physical cart instead of the game content. Taking that as the base to tell me I'm always negative and should change is... not really smart. Softly doubling down on it now, even less.

Also, you have interacted with me (or me with you) in other threads, one of them being a very good thread as I pointed above. Which you choose to left out now in your reply too.

There is no other way to see your approach to me other than provocative as it does not reflect reality and lacks even minimal research before choosing to go for personal confrontation.

I have personally nothing against you, but also neither have the will to not reply accordingly to things like that.

To make the point clear, I do not believe you did not want this kind of reply, which could be a lot worse, thats the intention your comment carries.

I do believe you often have good intentions because that's what I have gathered from you in many other posts, but that's not how I see the case here.

That’s fair. Also, I won’t lie and say that I don’t believe you’re aren’t overly negative, as that’s how you present yourself in many instances IMO. If you don’t like that, then IDK what to tell ya.

For me to be so unashamedly confrontational to your face in discussing this attribute of yours, however, was an inappropriate thing for me to do; I recognize that, and I’m sorry about being so mean. If you wanna chat further, my PMs are always open. No point in settling drama in the “public square.”



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Otter on 07 December 2025
Sogreblute said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

A lot of people are switching from Xbox to Playstation since Microsoft basically gave up.

If that's true the PS5 would be selling a lot more than the PS4, but since the PS5 is still behind the PS4 in the same timeframe that clearly isn't the case. Yes Xbox Series isn't selling close to the Xbox One, but if those gamers jumped over to PS5 the sales would be higher. Those Xbox gamers most likely went to PC.

"over 40% of PS5 purchasers were new to the PlayStation Network (PSN) ecosystem entirely"

There is probably a large number of Xbox Gamers jumping over. Probably more moving to playstation than to PC which is a very different user experience compared to console. Emphasis on the fact that many console gamers are more of the casual kind (COD+Fifa ect)

The reason why you're not necessarily seeing a huge jump over PS4 numbers is because actual PS4 users are being slow to adopt PS5. Despite the PS5 selling 80m, almost half of sonys active userbase are still on the PS4. And some will of course move to PC instead of PS5 but just some context there.




Mar1217 on 07 December 2025
Norion said:
Mar1217 said:

I think in his mind, the overperformance of the PS5 and the lower ratio for the Switch 2 in this important period might mean that there's an inherent problem with Nintendo's offering ... Despite the fact and the sales numbers demonstrating that this is simply not true. 

One console is doing well(or great even) but it's competitior is doing even better numbers ! Therefore the former must actually be struggling/doing something bad with its current sales strategies.

I think this is the logic with which he stands currently, which is not supported in reality by comparative numbers to what Nintendo usually does in the Euro market. 

Honestly, that attitude borderlines on "concern trolling". But that's prolly going too far.

I don't get how this keeps happening when an older console selling better than a new one at first is a normal thing since consoles peak in the middle of their lives usually. Like this is probably gonna be the PS5's best holiday season in Europe yet thanks to great deals on it so of course it's vastly outselling the Switch 2 there lately.

Maybe some kind of cyclical nature in these debates ? Pretty sure, it wouldn't be too difficult to unearth some discussions back in Holiday 2017 that had the exact kind of premise. 


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Louie on 07 December 2025
Mar1217 said:
Norion said:

Maybe some kind of cyclical nature in these debates ? Pretty sure, it wouldn't be too difficult to unearth some discussions back in Holiday 2017 that had the exact kind of premise. 

It's been like that forever on gaming forums. At least as far as I can think back and that is roughly 20 years. It's really funny because if the Switch 2 actually sold as well as some people apparently demand it to, the Switch 2 would be on its way to sell 250m units lifetime.

Consoles never peak in their first year. It's normal and the Switch 2 will most likely be the fastest selling console of all time after one year. It is handily outselling its predecessor. 

By the way: I hope Nintendo fans will act in a more classy manner when the PS6 inevitably gets beaten by the Switch 2 in its first year. It's never cool, no matter which side acts this way.



Norion on 07 December 2025
Mar1217 said:
Norion said:

I don't get how this keeps happening when an older console selling better than a new one at first is a normal thing since consoles peak in the middle of their lives usually. Like this is probably gonna be the PS5's best holiday season in Europe yet thanks to great deals on it so of course it's vastly outselling the Switch 2 there lately.

Maybe some kind of cyclical nature in these debates ? Pretty sure, it wouldn't be too difficult to unearth some discussions back in Holiday 2017 that had the exact kind of premise. 

Oh yeah it absolutely is. What gets me is people who have seen this happen before making the same exact mistake again.

Louie said:
Mar1217 said:

Maybe some kind of cyclical nature in these debates ? Pretty sure, it wouldn't be too difficult to unearth some discussions back in Holiday 2017 that had the exact kind of premise. 

It's been like that forever on gaming forums. At least as far as I can think back and that is roughly 20 years. It's really funny because if the Switch 2 actually sold as well as some people apparently demand it to, the Switch 2 would be on its way to sell 250m units lifetime.

Consoles never peak in their first year. It's normal and the Switch 2 will most likely be the fastest selling console of all time after one year. It is handily outselling its predecessor. 

By the way: I hope Nintendo fans will act in a more classy manner when the PS6 inevitably gets beaten by the Switch 2 in its first year. It's never cool, no matter which side acts this way.

I do think current market conditions could make the Switch 2 and PS6 have a more frontloaded sales curve than usual since consumers have now been conditioned to expect price increases instead of price cuts. As a result it wouldn't surprise me if the PS6 has an incredible first year but doesn't do better than the PS5 long term.



xl-klaudkil on 08 December 2025

Whas to be expected, 350 for a ps5 is a mega deal



 

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