Pointer, add COD and Godfather to that list on Wii.

Graphics were shithouse compared to the other consoles but the fast pace of aiming was insane.

I wonder if the gyro on the new joycons might be good enough to replace IR. from what the rumor says it might have 9 a nine axis sensor (6axis). 9 axis sensors are whats used for VR, and basically elliminates the need for recalibration mid game since the additional 3 axis magetometer fixes drift and increases precision

I prefer being able to point have my hand pointing anywhere as a starting position. I actually like being able to calibrating it. My favorite is the combination used in Wii motion plus units. Findable with pointer through IR and higher sensitivity with gyro. But If I had to choose I prefer gyro.

For shooters:

IR pointers (+stick for camera) > mouse >>> gyro+sticks > sticks alone

I probably agree to that. Just have to test one of these new vertical mice to make sure.

As others have said, IR allowed for a renaissance in lightgun shooters that just don't play anywhere near as well on modern systems that lack IR, and I miss that.

Likewise, after experiencing games like RE4, Metroid Prime, and Sin & Punishment with pointer aiming, going back to analogue just feels so slow and clunky.

Gyro is at least a lot better than analogue sticks alone in my opinion, which softens the blow a bit.

It doesn't matter how many internal sensors you add. So long as the controller can't tell where it is in relation to the TV, its all a crapshoot.

Mouse > IR > gyro >>>>>>>>>>>>dual analog. Precision v comfort

Wiimote + nunckuk > KBM >>>>>>>>>>>>dualanolog. Comfort, accessibilty v precision

Touchpad on a controller B)

Best I've ever played with was Halo with a bamboo drawing tablet. It was so accurate and felt so natural.