Yes, it's my problem. I'm bi and I hate how some devs handle things for the LGBT, it harms how people see us and causes resentment with this forced heavy hand and I'm sick of straight people telling me my opinion is invalid because I don't wave a flag along with the pronoun police and hate people policing gender identity. I believe them to be doing more harm than good. Baldurs Gate 3, Cyberpunk, even Dragon Age Inquosition all done it the right way, made it feel natural and didn't bring highlights to it with big flashing lights in the gamers face. I feel included in those, not amplified. Do it justice and with care or don't do it at all. They are making the younger generation dispises us and causing hate toward LGBT. I wish they'd just stop. 

As for Biowares previous, I've only played Inquisition and a bit of origins. Dorian was such a great character and it didn't have to be written into the game to tell the plays with a big flashing sign that he was gay. I didn't even know Sera was gay until I did a female playthrough and romance her. They did it justice. That's all I ask. 

Machina the critics hate their audience. As an older gamer, the contrast between what passes for gaming journalist now to what I saw in the 90s to early 00s is night and day. If it were just a matter of different taste, I don't think most people would care. However they praise things they know the audience won't like out of spite. "To own the chuds". I don't understand this modern mindset of willfully antagonizing your customers, they pay the bills. Chasing them away leads to the business folding.

I really don't think most people except some backwards people really have a problem with diverse characters. But they have with bad games. And sometimes you can get the impression game get bad, because the devs *only* focus on DEI instead of the game. That all works well together is shown by Baldur's Gate 3 for instance.

What puts me off most about the reviews I've seen so far, is that it seems Bioware sanded off the edges. They seem to fear to offend anyone. The game seems to mostly avoid darker themes and grittier content. You do apparently not have choices that NPCs hate. Companions don't have real conflicts. As it is reported your choices are mostly inconsequential. This is what throws me off the most. Compare to BG3, which has all the diverse cast, but also is unafraid to go every path the player wants and shows real conflict.

As I said before, I will wait until the game is out for real and take another look at the reviews then. But this thing including EA managing who gets review codes has moved this from "I am cautiosly excited for" to "I will wait and reevaluate later". Which is not nice, as I would want more good RPGs. I actually hoped BG3 had paved the way for more complex RPGs, showing that they still can be successful.

LegitHyperbole, I've seen your sentiment expressed more and more. I post on a fighting game centric forum. One of the gay members there has the same annoyance with how the LGBT community is currently presented. I can't speak as a member of your community, but as a "minority", I have similar concerns and issues. To your point, it's nothing more annoying that someone who isn't from your community telling you what your community should be offended by. 

Side note: Dorian was a cool character. I was looking forward to seeing him in Dragon Age Dreadwolf since the game was going to be set in Tevinter. Now I'm hoping he isn't in Veilguard. They'll ruin him.

I'm trying to understand your rationale. You point out how Inquisition had a bunch of diverse characters that fans didn't mind. Yet when those same fans take issue with Veilguard you think their DEI concerns are "nonsense." Sera, Dorian, Krem, Iron Bull, and Vivienne were great characters. They were will written. They didn't hit your over the head with their sexuality or ethnicity. That's the problem with these "DEI" games. They are incapable of writing complex characters that happen to be black or gay, or trans. They write characters with their sexuality or ethnicity being the central focus. Their defining trait. That's not how well crafted characters are created.

Side note: I haven't played through Inquistion in a half decade and despite being terrible with names, i remembered every single one of those characters off the top my head. That's a testament to how good a job the writers did. The current writers of Bioware don't seem capable of such a feat. 

The way I see it, the issue with the TLOU fandom is that many people played Joel as their self-inserted main character. For some reason, they seem to have a strange cognitive dissonance about the fact that Joel was a mercenary, a brutal killer, and essentially a terrorist. Yes, he was on a redemption journey, finding a teenager to fill the void left in his heart when he lost his daughter, but overall, he was still a deeply flawed person who never faced justice for his actions. I don’t blame him, as he was simply surviving in a post-apocalyptic world. "good people," as we’d see in a Christian, stable society, were mostly long gone. Joel was a survivor, and that’s why I liked him. But many fans saw him as a hero, and when that "hero" died in a brutal, painful, and almost undignified way, it shattered their goodwill toward the story.

Oh I know I'm not the only one sick of it, many people I follow feel the same. I hate having to say it cuase my sensuality is noones business but when you're called disgusting for having a clearly logical viewpoint I have to make an expectation. And I suppose I don't know how you feel as a minority but I guess it'd be the same vibe, I'm also very autistic too and people speak for us like we have no agency but it hits the worst when they write off your views completely and still insist you must be wrong or a bad guy cause you hold a slightly different less radical view on things. 

Yep, Dorian and Sera were my two favourites, I don't want to see what has become of them with the Disney aesthetic and this blatenly shallow and unthoughtfull writing. 

TLOU2 was amazing, I get why people were mad about the whole Joel thing and the shallow side characters but everything else was top tier. I think that was fake outrage cause of the Joel thong cause 60% of people finished that game, double the usual ammount for games that size so many of those complaining had to have enjoyed the game and why wouldn't they, it was a masterful tale of the cycle of revenge only hampered having everything reset mid game and it feeling like two separate games. 

Completely different political climate. Bare in my you have played Inquisition and you have not played Veilguard. Your stance on how characters engage with these topics is based off soundbites from a social media frenzy which is literally trigger happy with any topic which feeds into the notion of "culture wars" 

^ Another example is Ciri from The Witcher series. One of the best written characters across the mediums and she is bi but her secuality foesn't define her. She's bad ass, amazing and such a well crafted character and she doesn't ask people to acknowledge her identity or secual preference or call her different pronouns. Same with Elle from the last of us part two but inverse, her character declined because of writing and not her sexual preference which was done really well. I didn't see anyone attacking her for being gay but because she makes the most idiotic decisions and becomes a monster.

People are cheering for the game to fail, and upset if the game has gotten some good reviews.  That's unhinged, people have different opinions on things, if someone else likes  a game that shouldn't hurt them.  If the game had a 60 average, you would see a bunch of go woke go broke crap.  People don't care if the characters are well written, they just want to complain because it has the dignity to acknowledged someones pronouns.  What a horrible inconvenience, how dare you make me respect someone else.