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Darc Requiem on 29 October 2024
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LegitHyperbole said:
Pemalite said:


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LegitHyperbole said:

It's strange that I'm playing Baldurs Gate 3 now, it has non binary options and you can have whatever genitals you want on whatever body you want yet here they write in a line of dialogue about using pronouns and it's made the game repulsive to me. When will they learn they are doing more harm than good to LGBT. So much harm, I wish they'd cut it out.

That's your problem.
You should have literally known what to expect from a bioware game, considering they have always supported inclusive and diverse characters and backstory.

It's people attitudes like this that is actually disgusting.


Yeah, I am going to see how the pricing goes in terms of discounting... It's like $110 - $140 AUD. EA games plummet in price fairly rapidly.

Yes, it's my problem. I'm bi and I hate how some devs handle things for the LGBT, it harms how people see us and causes resentment with this forced heavy hand and I'm sick of straight people telling me my opinion is invalid because I don't wave a flag along with the pronoun police and hate people policing gender identity. I believe them to be doing more harm than good. Baldurs Gate 3, Cyberpunk, even Dragon Age Inquosition all done it the right way, made it feel natural and didn't bring highlights to it with big flashing lights in the gamers face. I feel included in those, not amplified. Do it justice and with care or don't do it at all. They are making the younger generation dispises us and causing hate toward LGBT. I wish they'd just stop. 

As for Biowares previous, I've only played Inquisition and a bit of origins. Dorian was such a great character and it didn't have to be written into the game to tell the plays with a big flashing sign that he was gay. I didn't even know Sera was gay until I did a female playthrough and romance her. They did it justice. That's all I ask. 

LegitHyperbole, I've seen your sentiment expressed more and more. I post on a fighting game centric forum. One of the gay members there has the same annoyance with how the LGBT community is currently presented. I can't speak as a member of your community, but as a "minority", I have similar concerns and issues. To your point, it's nothing more annoying that someone who isn't from your community telling you what your community should be offended by. 

Side note: Dorian was a cool character. I was looking forward to seeing him in Dragon Age Dreadwolf since the game was going to be set in Tevinter. Now I'm hoping he isn't in Veilguard. They'll ruin him.

haxxiy said:
SvennoJ said:


Dunno if it's the culture war stuff that started the blow up, or is getting amplified because the game is simply not that appealing to original fans of DA. Same as turning TloU2 from a happy 'shoot everyone in the way' to a 'here are the consequences' type story had people amplify the culture war things in the game.

Most fans of DA are fans of DA: Inquisition. It outsold the first two games combined twice over.

That's what makes this so amusing. The chuds who just play games with anime girls coming and dissing this I get. But there were some Inquisition fans in the hate wagon too complaining not of the changed art style (which was admittedly... a strange choice, to say the least) but thinking Bioware had changed due to DEI or some nonsense.

Inquisition, you know, the game with a lesbian elf, a gay mage, a transexual mercenary, a bisexual qunari, a black French sorceress...

I'm trying to understand your rationale. You point out how Inquisition had a bunch of diverse characters that fans didn't mind. Yet when those same fans take issue with Veilguard you think their DEI concerns are "nonsense." Sera, Dorian, Krem, Iron Bull, and Vivienne were great characters. They were will written. They didn't hit your over the head with their sexuality or ethnicity. That's the problem with these "DEI" games. They are incapable of writing complex characters that happen to be black or gay, or trans. They write characters with their sexuality or ethnicity being the central focus. Their defining trait. That's not how well crafted characters are created.

Side note: I haven't played through Inquistion in a half decade and despite being terrible with names, i remembered every single one of those characters off the top my head. That's a testament to how good a job the writers did. The current writers of Bioware don't seem capable of such a feat.