Which Generation would you consider the Switch Successor? | |||
| 9th Generation | 21 | 36.21% | |
| 10th Generation | 37 | 63.79% | |
| Total: | 58 | ||
Nice post Pem.
Of course it will be tenth generation in the established system. It's the successor to the ninth-gen Switch which was the successor to the eighth-gen 3DS and Wii U.
Nowadays even the proponents for classifying Switch as eighth gen have to agree that Switch belongs in the same generation as the PS5 and Xbox Series, because their popular main argument was that Switch will have spent more of its lifetime competing with the PS4 and XB1 than the PS5 and XS. Subsequently, Switch's successor will spend most of its lifetime competing against the PS6 and whatever's left of Xbox.
The real main reason why Switch was classified as eighth gen by many was that they wanted to hand Nintendo a loss in at least some form after Sony had to exit the handheld space. Since the argument that Nintendo had exited the home console space was unsustainable, the next best thing was to say that Nintendo lost so bad that they had to launch two consoles in the same generation.
Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.
Pemalite said:
It would make it the third generation hybrid. |
I look at it like Switch 1 should be 1st gen of hybrid hardware. I don't exactly agree with Wii U being considered a hybrid. It kinda is, but the way I see it, is that it was a transitionary half step between Wii and Switch. Wii U would kinda be its own thing.
Depends on how different Switch 2 will be, but so far the rumors sound like it's going to be a very similar full generational upgrade from Switch 1. That says to me that Wii U should be considered its own thing, or just left under home console still for simplicity.
That would leave us with separate console, handheld, and hybrid categories.
This could turn out to be extra useful if the rumors that XB and/or PS are getting more serious about another handheld are true, since it would seem extremely likely that if they seriously pursue handheld, that they'll do what little extra work needs to be done to make it a hybrid since it adds such a huge benefit to the hardware for little extra cost.
Next gen we could end up comparing PS6 to XBSXS2, as well as SW2 vs PS6P vs XBSH (handheld/hybrid). That's if SNY and MS gave us separate hardware numbers, so we'd have to wait and see.
| Shtinamin_ said: Ever since Nintendo's has gotten into the game console career. They have always been some of the later consoles to be released in a generation.
Given this information we see that since Xbox and Playstation have been "competing" against each other, whenever the New Xbox or New Playstation releases looks to be the start of the New Generation. The WiiU is a special Nintendo case, otherwise the Switch should be a Gen 9 console. The Switch released <5 years after the Wii U, and the successor of the Switch is rumored for Spring 2025. This would make it release >5 years after the Xbox Series, satisfying this "rule" to have it be a 9th gen. |
First of all, gens make little sense outside of the models following each other in *one* company. But yes, people *outside* the companies have tried to align gens. Maybe marketing too, back before the video game crash.
But if you are aligning gens, when at least do it based on who is competing in the market. Switch has competed by now much more with PS5 and Xbox Series than PS4 and XBox One. Or do you think anyone is considering: should I buy a Switch or a PS4?
KLXVER said:
When discussing your favorite 9th or 10th console? |
You could as well discuss your favorite white colored console. Makes as much sense.
| Pemalite said: It would make it the third generation hybrid.
1st console generation: |
Ok I will attempt to make this but it will be very flawed (I'm not well versed in specific technologies). And I will try to focus on the major brands at the time (not counting pure handhelds).
How did I do? Good? Bad?
Lifetime Sales Predictions
Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)
PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)
Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)
"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.
Mnementh said:
First of all, gens make little sense outside of the models following each other in *one* company. But yes, people *outside* the companies have tried to align gens. Maybe marketing too, back before the video game crash. |
Every website says that Switch is 8th. I honestly think it can be 9th, but generations aren't declared making it difficult.
Lifetime Sales Predictions
Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)
PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)
Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)
"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.
| Chrkeller said: Much like genres I think generations kind of don't exist anymore. |
I think gens are a pre video game crash thing. There was a dizzying amount of consoles out in the market back then. It may have been a helpful categorization to separate it into first-gen consoles and second gen (mostly defined by some quality of life features, like the introduction of cartridges and detached controllers instead of PCB or hard-coded games and controls on the console itself). Post crash the amount was small enough, that you could compare directly the few competitors.
Shtinamin_ said:
Every website says that Switch is 8th. I honestly think it can be 9th, but generations aren't declared making it difficult. |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch
Wikipedia can't even make a decision.
Mnementh said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch Wikipedia can't even make a decision. |
I don't think Wiki is the best place for sources. But there is a lot of reasoning why it should be gen 9. So what are the reasons why it should be gen 8?
Lifetime Sales Predictions
Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)
PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)
Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)
"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.
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