I was talking about the traditional home console only. How does ps4 and xbox compare in their  best years to this year.

Yeah. I agree.  If some how Nintendo can hit $350 and still have good performance, this would create chaos for the competition.

PS4's best calendar year was 20.2m. Xbox isn't really relevant anymore, even Microsoft agrees.

They don't, it's just the 4090 is the pinnacle of GPU greatness along with the pinnacle of GPU pricing insanity. All GPU's are priced much too high.

My point was simply stuff is too expensive right now, especially stuff nobody really needs but wants.

Depends on what hardware S2 has and how much profit Nin feels they need to make immediately, but going beyond $400 would be taking a huge risk.

PS5 Pro will be fine if it's only 2X performance improvement for $499 with base PS5 dropping to $399. If PS5 Pro is over $500, SNY won't be getting 4-1 or 5-1 sales and will get like 10-1 sales instead.

Hopefully that means there are some decent sized new IPs aiming for the second half but I predict this will be one of those years where they rely on third parties 

Pretty much in line with what I expected, although I did think the PS5 would have a bigger holiday quarter. I never once expected Sony to hit its 25m fiscal year target but I did entertain that it could beat the PS2's record year of 22.5m. Now, it looks like the PS5 won't reach the PS1's record year either. Most concerning though is the outlook for this next fiscal year regarding any new major titles based on existing IP. Not looking good, especially when you consider that Switch 2 is coming.

Some people are so baffled that the Switch's "archaic" hardware has such appeal in the face of the modern competition. Maybe it's because I'm old, but when you lived through Game Boy and watched how Atari, NEC and Sega all lined up far stronger systems and the little black & white screened handheld knocked each of them down one by one, you tend to take in that cutting-edge power isn't everything. If Switch 2 makes it out at $399 and is a hit, there's no way that the premium models from the competition will go lower than that and that would put Nintendo in a very advantageous position in the market going forward.

Well most developers haven't show much beyond PS4 like graphics. It's becoming harder to make that distinction. I think lots of innovation is going to be needed to both speed up the pace of development, ai, animations and interactivity. With a few exceptions, the graphical leap looks like it won't really be seen until the later half of the gen

These 2 games don't look a generation apart:

Spiderman looks so dated in that pic.

I think even $399 is cheap enough. 

Sony is safe for the rest of this generation, Switch 2 may eat some of its end of life sales but I think there's a risk Swicth 3 will render Playstations main selling point (HQ 3rd party content) obsolete. 

"Sony is expecting PlayStation 5 hardware sales to decline year-over-year and has no major first-party releases from existing IP for the next fiscal year, which runs from April 2024 to March 2025." That is CRAZY. I feel like the PS5 never had a great year of first party exclusives since it's release. Since they didn't have any stock and production was compromised because of the pandemic they really should have just delayed the thing.

I think the inflation is for a big part tho, Nintendo must be really careful with their launch.