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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo France CY 2023: NSW HW 855K, 7.81M LTD, Zelda TotK No.1 with 968K at retail

Evilms said:

https://www.gamopat.com/2023/02/dossier-guerre-des-chiffres-les-consoles-8bit-nintendo-vs-sega-part-ii.html

It only lists the period of 1988 through 1993. That's like if somebody would only count X360 sales from 2006-2010 and use those numbers as total sales.

Also, considering the article above that the Master System sold almost twice as much in France during it's peak, it's fair to say that the numbers from gamopat are lowballing quite a bit.



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zeldaring said:
curl-6 said:

Just seems weird to call it niche here if nobody on here was actually saying that. 

Starting around early 2010s, superheroes became an absolutely massive craze across pop culture with the likes of the MCU. This benefitted Spiderman greatly as both a popular superhero IP and a Marvel property.

I wasn't downplaying its success, just saying it's not really surprising, just like it wasn't surprising that Mario Wonder or Tears of the Kingdom were highly successful.

I agree with you on spider man 2 but not spiderman  2018 there was no history on spiderman gam even coming close to even 10 million not even 5 million. It's like botw while people expected success most did not think it would be a massive success.

spiderman the movie and spiderman the  movie 2 both almost certainly exceed 5 million units,

data is a pain to find, but 

spiderman 1 sold over 2.81 million units on only PS2 and only in the US and UK, it sold at least another 500 k in the US on both the xbox and gamecube as both hit their budget hits range, so Spiderman Movie one and another 750k on the gba plus a pc release under 5 million for spiderman 1 is nearly impossible

Considering Spiderman 1 and  2 consoles only brought in 300 million in the us alone, by 2007 and both had a budget release the floor for US sales in 3 million each, and considering it seems at least 100 million was in the budget range both probably were pushing 4.5 million in the US alone, 

both movie games were platinum hits on PS2 in the EU, Uk and Australia, 

considering game sold way fewer copies then, spiderman was a huge hit,

 spiderman has always been super  mainstream, if Activision had continued to improve their spiderman games instead of going to cheap cash-ins they'd have had a potential 20 million seller, there is a reason there are  like 40 spiderman games, and it isn't because it has ever been niche.



I HAVE A DOUBLE DRAGON CAB IN MY KITCHEN!!!!!!

NOW A PUNISHER CAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is this weird Niche-man discourse? Maybe I missed something as I haven't been here long but I have never seen someone here call it niche.



Evilms said:

https://www.gamopat.com/2023/02/dossier-guerre-des-chiffres-les-consoles-8bit-nintendo-vs-sega-part-ii.html

France [GFK Data]


2017 : 911.000
2018 : 1.130.000
2019 : 1.250.000
2020 : 1.509.000
2021 : 1.303.000
2022 : 987.000
2023 : 855.000

Nintendo Switch LTD : 7.945.000

Via Lefigaro (cumulative total)

2017 : 0,910
2018 : 2,041
2019 : 3,300
2020 : 4,700
2021 : +6,000
2022 : 7,090
2023 : ~8,000

Did they make adjustments because the yearly totals for 2021 and 2020 are different here https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/french-hardware-sales-in-2021-update-with-new-data.464/



Idk how this conversation turned to Spiderman, but the new game was boring as shit imo



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ShadowLink93 said:
Evilms said:

https://www.gamopat.com/2023/02/dossier-guerre-des-chiffres-les-consoles-8bit-nintendo-vs-sega-part-ii.html

France [GFK Data]


2017 : 911.000
2018 : 1.130.000
2019 : 1.250.000
2020 : 1.509.000
2021 : 1.303.000
2022 : 987.000
2023 : 855.000

Nintendo Switch LTD : 7.945.000

Via Lefigaro (cumulative total)

2017 : 0,910
2018 : 2,041
2019 : 3,300
2020 : 4,700
2021 : +6,000
2022 : 7,090
2023 : ~8,000

Did they make adjustments because the yearly totals for 2021 and 2020 are different here https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/french-hardware-sales-in-2021-update-with-new-data.464/

Ludostrie data are differents from that of GFK.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/the-state-of-the-french-hardware-market.2158/



France really loves Nintendo. I know Europe writ large is PlayStation Land, but there's a lot of variability in the region, such as the UK being closer to the U.S. than continental Europe in terms of each brand's market share and Nintendo over-performing in France relative to the rest of the region.

Hopefully the CESA white paper comes out this year (I think it's still in limbo) so we can get an idea about what 2023 sales for other systems in France as well as all systems in other major European markets were like.



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AddRat said:

What is this weird Niche-man discourse? Maybe I missed something as I haven't been here long but I have never seen someone here call it niche.

It's basically "waah, my favourite multi-billion dollar franchise is such an underdog and us fans are such poor, persecuted victims"



Spider-man 2 was practically given away for free just a month after the launch, so the numbers aren't even impressive like Mario Wonder.



curl-6 said:
AddRat said:

What is this weird Niche-man discourse? Maybe I missed something as I haven't been here long but I have never seen someone here call it niche.

It's basically "waah, my favourite multi-billion dollar franchise is such an underdog and us fans are such poor, persecuted victims"

Naw it was posters at restera saying it won't be a big deal and historically spider man has been a niche market in video games.  Sure it didn't happen Here but most people visit that forum since it's the most active.