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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 45, 2023 (Oct 30 - Nov 05)

curl-6 said:
Alex_The_Hedgehog said:

The question is:

Can the Xbox Series reach 1M LT in Japan?

It's managed half that much in 3 years; I'd say it can get there.

If it keeps the drop in sales YoY for this year and next that may not happen.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

It's managed half that much in 3 years; I'd say it can get there.

If it keeps the drop in sales YoY for this year and next that may not happen.

I didn't say that it would, just that it is possible. A lot will depend on how Microsoft handle the rest of the generation, and whether they decide to give up on Japan in particular.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 11 November 2023

Rough start for Warioware: Move It. It's less than half of Get it Together and while it'll be a better launch that Gold when factoring in digital that was a really late 3DS game so its sales were more acceptable. The series should attempt VR at some point since that would be a more unique entry. Also hopefully the PS5 makes up for the past few weeks at least somewhat the next couple.



curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

If it keeps the drop in sales YoY for this year and next that may not happen.

I didn't say that it would, just that is it possible. A lot will depend on how Microsoft handle the rest of the generation, and whether they decide to give up on Japan in particular.

I din't see anything MS could/would do to change this by a relevant margin.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I didn't say that it would, just that is it possible. A lot will depend on how Microsoft handle the rest of the generation, and whether they decide to give up on Japan in particular.

I din't see anything MS could/would do to change this by a relevant margin.

I mean, it shouldn't take a big change to eek out another 500k over the next 5-6 years, they could get there just by crawling slowly forwards.



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curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

I din't see anything MS could/would do to change this by a relevant margin.

I mean, it shouldn't take a big change to eek out another 500k over the next 5-6 years, they could get there just by crawling slowly forwards.

What make you think they will support Series in Japan for another 5-6 years? They didn't support X1 for 8-9 years, and well even their last year or couple years of support the sales (WW) were quite low.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I mean, it shouldn't take a big change to eek out another 500k over the next 5-6 years, they could get there just by crawling slowly forwards.

What make you think they will support Series in Japan for another 5-6 years? They didn't support X1 for 8-9 years, and well even their last year or couple years of support the sales (WW) were quite low.

They are a little over 500k now.

If they can continue to sell around 100K per year for the next 3-4 years, they may get there - to 1M.

So they even don't need 5-6 years for the 1M target.

But the 360's 1.66M is another thing ..



My sales comparison threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdown / Historical Showdown / YOY Charts / 140M+ Club Chart

LOL, PS4 above PS5 in late 2023.
Sony really planned things well, huh? 🤣



XtremeBG said:
DonFerrari said:

What make you think they will support Series in Japan for another 5-6 years? They didn't support X1 for 8-9 years, and well even their last year or couple years of support the sales (WW) were quite low.

They are a little over 500k now.

If they can continue to sell around 100K per year for the next 3-4 years, they may get there - to 1M.

So they even don't need 5-6 years for the 1M target.

But the 360's 1.66M is another thing ..

Aren't xbox sales also dropping YoY in Japan? Why expect it to keep over 100k/year for the next 4 years?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Aren't xbox sales also dropping YoY in Japan? Why expect it to keep over 100k/year for the next 4 years?

Why not ? it should keep some baseline at least .. It is still having some weeks of 3-4-5k here and there, so there is possibility to at least keep around 100k per year.



My sales comparison threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdown / Historical Showdown / YOY Charts / 140M+ Club Chart