One of the benefits of having an extremely successful product already on the market, is that you don't have to be in a rush to prepare a successor. The games people are suggesting should be held back for cross-gen have already been in development for several years. Going by your estimates, even if they only begun developing games for a Switch successor now, they'd still have a good chance of having them ready for a 2024 launch year.

Unless you believe in cliff-theory, what chance is there that Switch sales will begin to seriously decline before 2024? Even with the hypothetical of Nintendo wanting two successful systems on the market at once, why should they jeopradise the sales of Switch (already selling at a historic rate), when they can easily sustain it for a couple more years, have more time to prepare titles for a successor, and should still be able to have them co-exist well after that point too?

Not really mad, if anything I'm fine we won't have exclusive games for new Switch as I wasn't planning to buy the new Switch, I was already saved from spending 350 bucks by default 

But Nintendo fans are very butthurt, people have no right to find any product lame on this forum it seems 

It doesn't seem to have an official new name? Just "Nintendo Switch (OLED model)". I was hoping for "Super Switch" or so.

This suggests no super long life cycle for Switch, so Switch 2 (with the rumored 4k DLSS) launching in Spring or Holiday 2024 is highly probably. Wouldn't make sense to launch before 2024 as Switch will still be selling huge numbers through 2022 and big games will still be hitting Switch in 2023, but Nintendo will no doubt want a new system on the market before Switch sales really start dropping under 15 million/year.

Software takeaways from this:
- no new Mario Kart on Switch, MK9 will be launch title on Switch 2 in 2024
- Switch won't get another 3D Mario, it'll be a 2024 Switch 2 game
- 2022 will get Pokemon Legends, Splatoon, Zelda, DK, couple smaller games
- 2023 will get Metroid Prime 4, 2D Mario, maybe Pikmin 4, perhaps Mario Strikers, couple smaller games
- 2024 might just get another Pokemon Legends game as the only big game for the year as Nintendo isn't gonna release a Pokemon game on a new system with small install base, and maybe some smaller or delayed games or ignored series like Star Fox or something to see how they do on a huge install base.
- Switch 2 launches either Spring or Holiday 2024 with MK9 and 3D Mario. Next gen Zelda probably won't be until like three years into Switch 2 lifecycle.

R.I.P. 60 FPS on DOOM Eternal for Switch.

Seems like mostly upgrades for the portable aspect of the console. I dont use mine in portable mode, so I dont need to upgrade. Kinda disappointed that it isnt more powerful, but on the other hand, I dont need to worry about buying another Switch.

Nintendo never even hinted at a pro model. The "leakers" can't be trusted.

Going to be a hard pass on that one.

Nothing about a 2023 release seems rushed to me personally.

You don't need sales to fall off a cliff before you act to increase sales and maximise profits & revenue. Especially if the market and technology is ready for new devices (which is actually a more interesting topic imo, i.e what tech is affordable for a $399 device in 2023? Does it warrant a new platform)

Software wise, this is only positively affected with renewed interest in the Nintendo ecosystem, more outlets for third-party support and games which are late in the cycle will benefit from being showcased on new hardware, again I'm personally imagining Metroid Prime 4. Of course if Zelda isn't ready for 2022, then potentially it too. Maybe Bayo 3. All the meanwhile Switch's 130m userbase still exist and are still there for Nintendo to sell to. Most likely their ever greens keep charting until the Switch 2 versions replace them, nothing is at risk here.

Hardware wise, so a new system is released and sells a shit tonne and steals some late life sales from the Switch... Is Nintendo supposed to feel sad about that?Should Sony of released the PS5 in 2022 just so the PS4 could reach 130m? IDK, I think there's a bigger picture with long-term consumer engagement and conservation that people are not following when they obsess over unit sales.

I am certainly not saying a Switch 2023 is a given or anything, but its certainly reasonable. One thing we haven't yet touched on is the idea that internal Nintendo teams & partners probably also want more powerful hardware. Have you seen the frame rate on Pokemon Legends... yikes! 

That never really happened with nintendo though. The longest life after the release of the successor was basically 3DS. Everything else died quickly. And while PS1 and PS2 sold well after the release of the next machine, PS3 and PS4 dropped like stones with weights around their ankles once the next machine hit shelfes.