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EnricoPallazzo said:
What is the score he gave to tlou2?

This is *NOT* a review of TLOU2.



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RolStoppable said:
Good video. Motivated me to change my avatar back to classic.

The Last of Us Part II is another instance of video games as a medium being taken a step back, because the comparisons to other media with story-telling are ridiculous. Sterling does a good job of going over previous instances of this nonsense.

     Why are you being so vocal of a game you haven't played? How can you say TLOU2 is a step back for videogames as a medium without having played the game? Because you read up the story and you watched some cutscenes?

      I don't agree with this video at all because there shouldn't be boundaries on how a story is told. If a specific approach is the best for that story to be told, then so be it. This is becoming a world where everyone is critical of everything, even people who didn't give those things a chance.



Iv always watched Jim, and couldn't agree more. Its not just about gaming companies but also the fanbases of these brands. They think bad 1st party titles are worth perfect scores because a dev they like made it.



EnricoPallazzo said:
What is the score he gave to tlou2?

Apparently Angry Joe walked off on his Stream playing TLOU2 in disgust.. however not sure if it was an emotional walk away of he hated the game. Will wait and see in his Angry Review.

EDITED: Corrected, he did in disgust.

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Mordred11 said:
RolStoppable said:
Good video. Motivated me to change my avatar back to classic.

The Last of Us Part II is another instance of video games as a medium being taken a step back, because the comparisons to other media with story-telling are ridiculous. Sterling does a good job of going over previous instances of this nonsense.

     Why are you being so vocal of a game you haven't played? How can you say TLOU2 is a step back for videogames as a medium without having played the game? Because you read up the story and you watched some cutscenes?

      I don't agree with this video at all because there shouldn't be boundaries on how a story is told. If a specific approach is the best for that story to be told, then so be it. This is becoming a world where everyone is critical of everything, even people who didn't give those things a chance.

The video from Jimquisition and Rol's comment aren't about the quality of TLOU at all. It is about the ridiculous comparison to movies, in the concrete example to Schindler's List. You can agree that this comparison is moronic and still like TLOU2. You can say this comparison is ridiculous without having played TLOU. And these comparison actually hurt the acceptance of videogames as an medium of art. Because videogames can do things movies can't as movies can do things books can't. Instead the focus is put on the things that videogames are obviously less capable of than good movies or books. Tis is hurting the overall images of videogames.



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Not to mention funko pops. I burst out laughing finding out this game wants to be taken so seriously yet has funko pops.



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Darashiva said:
EnricoPallazzo said:
What is the score he gave to tlou2?

He hasn't given scores to games in at least a few years now.

Not a serious score, at least. I watched his Gears 5 review where he gave the game nonstop praise and at the end he said "but it's from Microsoft so 2/10" or something like that.



d21lewis said:
Darashiva said:

He hasn't given scores to games in at least a few years now.

Not a serious score, at least. I watched his Gears 5 review where he gave the game nonstop praise and at the end he said "but it's from Microsoft so 2/10" or something like that.

Yeah, he still occasionally makes jokes at the expense of people who got angry at his review scores in the past, usually when he's talking about exclusive games.



RolStoppable said:
Mordred11 said:

     Why are you being so vocal of a game you haven't played? How can you say TLOU2 is a step back for videogames as a medium without having played the game? Because you read up the story and you watched some cutscenes?

      I don't agree with this video at all because there shouldn't be boundaries on how a story is told. If a specific approach is the best for that story to be told, then so be it. This is becoming a world where everyone is critical of everything, even people who didn't give those things a chance.

mnementh explained it already, but it's not even necessary to have read up on the story of The Last of Us Part II to know that it isn't high quality movie level, because AAA games don't go beyond the depth of a popcorn movie. Whenever video game journalists go out of their way to portray video games as an art form, they usually get caught up in comparisons that make gamers come across as delusional to people outside of gaming. It's the completely wrong approach to garner broader acceptance.

A wrong, deeply misinformed statement in regards to TLOU2 and my love for movies is beyond that of videogames. The way this game portrays pain and how even the best of people can succumb to pain is unlike anything I've seen in a movie form.



His video, while on form with his usual stuff raised a question for me.

What is considered a good video game story? Instead of moaning that video game stories are crap compared to some films, what are good stand out stories in games that show what a game can produce, so that story in games can be compared to other games. For every great movie story, there are 50 books that are better. For every pun filled super-hero film, there are 15 graphic novels that outshine them. You can't compare different mediums stories against each other as how they are told and portrayed are so different.

Video game medium is still hung up on the idea it's entertainment media has to be compared to that of films because films are still more popular as an entertainment media even if games make more money.



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