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WagnerPaiva said:
no Meeeerio??

No Legend of Zilda either! I wonder why....



                
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VanceIX said:
Vena said:
VanceIX said:

In that case, Nintendo would have no need to buy the rest of the shares in 2011 as they did.

A 20% share is significant enough in influencing aspects of the company.


Yes, its called politicking in the business room. Why they bought it could have any number of reasons, but that doesn't chnage the fact of how board of directors and shareholding works. Majority shareholding is a very important aspect of business ventures, thats why companies buy out 51% of a company or more, because that is the point at which they gain control of the company and its board of directors. They own the company at that point. The other % make it possible for someone else to possible start buying from other parties and then possibly try to make a deal with the owner. Companies will then buy out 100% to avoid this ever happening.

Except Namco specifically held out selling all shares in order to keep "involvement" with the company. I see that as a sure sign that Nintendo didn't have complete influence over them.

Based on this argument Pokemon and Fire Emblem aren't Nintendo-IPs, because look at the ownership of Creature Inc./Pokemon Company and Intelligent System.



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Mystro-Sama said:
80% of them are unforgettable.


wow You must really like Nintendo games.



VanceIX said:
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And that was all my point. Nintendo essentially controlled the company, but they didn't have 100% ownership, so not completely first party. Monolith Soft was still a public company when it released Xenoblade Chronicles, not a subsidary as it became in 2011. To each his own though, like I said. My definition for first party is different from yours. 

While I do see your point im curious as to how you view the games insomniac, media molecule and sucker punch made for Sony are labelled. Everyone considers them Sony IPs but the companies were never owned by sony when many of them were made, in fact littlebigplanet was shopped around to Nintendo before Sony gave them the money.

Well, Sony owns the IP in most of those cases. Nintendo did not own the Xenoblade Chronicles IP, that was owned soley by Monolith Soft. I consider Pokemon a first party Nintendo title, even though it is developed by a second party company (Gamefreak), because the IP itself is owned by Nintendo.

You're wrong. First sentence in the Wikipedia about Pokeon:

"Pokémon (ポケモン Pokemon?, /ˈpoʊkeɪmɒn/ POH-kay-mon[1][2]) is a media franchise published by Japanese video game company Nintendo, owned by The Pokémon Company"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon

The Poke,on Company is affiliated with Nintendo, like Intelligent System, GameFreak and Monolith.



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Mnementh said:
VanceIX said:

Except Namco specifically held out selling all shares in order to keep "involvement" with the company. I see that as a sure sign that Nintendo didn't have complete influence over them.

Based on this argument Pokemon and Fire Emblem aren't Nintendo-IPs, because look at the ownership of Creature Inc./Pokemon Company and Intelligent System.

Nintendo didn't own the Xenoblade Chronicles IP while Monolith Soft was a public company. Monolith Soft owned rights to the IP, and they were not completely owned by Nintendo at the time.

Nintendo owns the Pokemon and Fire Emblem IPs, even if a second-party dev develops them. Big difference.



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Mnementh said:

You're wrong. First sentence in the Wikipedia about Pokeon:

"Pokémon (ポケモン Pokemon?, /ˈpoʊkeɪmɒn/ POH-kay-mon[1][2]) is a media franchise published by Japanese video game company Nintendo, owned by The Pokémon Company"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon

The Poke,on Company is affiliated with Nintendo, like Intelligent System, GameFreak and Monolith.

I KNOW Nintendo owns Pokemon, where did I say they don't? I said they don't own Game Freak, for heaven's sake.



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Mystro-Sama said:
80% of them are unforgettable.


Fixed



VanceIX said:
Mnementh said:

You're wrong. First sentence in the Wikipedia about Pokeon:

"Pokémon (ポケモン Pokemon?, /ˈpoʊkeɪmɒn/ POH-kay-mon[1][2]) is a media franchise published by Japanese video game company Nintendo, owned by The Pokémon Company"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon

The Poke,on Company is affiliated with Nintendo, like Intelligent System, GameFreak and Monolith.

I KNOW Nintendo owns Pokemon, where did I say they don't? I said they don't own Game Freak, for heaven's sake.

Read again what I wrote: The Pokemon IP isn't owned by Nintendo, but by another company named the Pokemon company. If I remember right, GameFreak and Nintendo have shares of this company. As you claim GameFreak isn't owned by Nintendo, then also  the Pokemon Company isn't owned by Nintendo and so they don't own the Pokemon IP.



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And how many of those franchises do you actually care about?



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Mnementh said:

Read again what I wrote: The Pokemon IP isn't owned by Nintendo, but by another company named the Pokemon company. If I remember right, GameFreak and Nintendo have shares of this company. As you claim GameFreak isn't owned by Nintendo, then also  the Pokemon Company isn't owned by Nintendo and so they don't own the Pokemon IP.


The pokemon company was founded in 1998

Pokemon Red and Blue was released in 1996

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