PS5 Pro revealed. November 7th 2024. $699

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SvennoJ said:

My kids recently played Skylanders on it, didn't need an install. That's indeed something worthy to go back to! Just plays straight from disc. But it would be too slow nowadays since disc tech has not kept up. HVD never made it to mainstream. 4K Blu-rays are merely souped up blu-rays, slow.

Patches are much better now. Most games don't need to make a full copy anymore for every patch. It took 26 minutes to copy GT Sport on PS4 (standard HDD) to apply a patch that downloads in less than a minute. Plus you need all that extra space to install a patch because of the copy requirement.

I can bash the ps3 gen for ruining gaming. The crutch of release now, fix/finish later started in gen 7. Plus gen 7 shifted multiplayer from couch to online. As well as killing the A game industry. Either AAA or indie. And of course paid online.

Tbh PS4 and PS5 would be behind PS3 for me if it wasn't for VR. PSVR1 re-ignited my passion for gaming, PSVR2 now gets 90% of my game time. I definitely wouldn't mind playing all the great PS3 games again in VR. But on TV, nah that time has passed.

Nothing is slow, I am still playing 7th gen all the time last few years, from discs too, the only slower thing is the loading times but they are still fine, it's not like waiting 5 minutes for something, it is not bothering me, however this is because of the HDD vs SSD, not because of the blu ray player reading slowly. I am happy with it even on the 360 where is the DVD you can just install the game once and you the drive does not need to work after that.

Patches are better in the sense that you don't need to replace the old one when a few new get released as you said, however patched became bigger and bigger and you need to wait more time for downloading and installing them. I used XB1 and PS4 all the time just until a year ago, and I know how many times I needed to download patches and wait for a size of a 7th gen game to download and install. On the PS5 and XBSX, maybe the install time is less because of the SSD but the big patches are still there. About the space I don't have a problem, I upgraded my PS3 with 500GB back in 2015.

The ruining gaming and releasing broken games is not the 7th gen fault, it's the developers and companies that makes games's fault. They saw opportunity and took it. They are to blame, not the generation or the consoles. The multiplayer also is not a bad thing, if you maintain it within some frames, just like it was till the end of the 7th gen, it was primary single player, it was like 80% of the game single player and 20% multiplayer for the most games. I've had many fun times online on games like call of duty and GTA IV where I enjoyed the single player very much and the multiplayer as well, however they began to put it more and more, and later in 8th gen removing single player completely and putting multiplayer only, adding micro transactions too, so maybe you have to blame 8th gen not 7th for this. The real one to blame here is again the people behind those decisions, not the consoles themselves. The 7th gen was in fact the last real generation where you could play and having what to play from the couch with friends, There were many games that you could play with a friend on 1 console. The drought of such games began on the next, 8th gen. The paid online was only for Xbox, and it began in the 6th gen, so stop searching for a things to blame the 7th gen, all the things have started from other periods than the 7th gen, and the real one to blame is not the generation but the corporate people that took those decisions. They would take them no matter what generation of consoles we are in.