PS5 Pro revealed. November 7th 2024. $699

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SvennoJ said:

Online was indeed free, but also crap and offline for months after PSN got completely hacked. FTP games are still free to play online, but yes it sucks Sony followed and made paying for online mandatory. However PS3 was also rife with online passes, so it wasn't entirely free to play online. Second hand games you had to buy the online pass separately. (Or to play your disc online on a different account)

Europe models were not full BC, and to reduce price full BC capability was removed. Plus BC was a separate mode without any boost capability like the PS5 now has. I lost my FF12 saves due to a corrupted virtual memory card (I pressed the off button while it was still saving to virtual memory card I guess)
Btw thanks to the PS4 Pro, a lot of PS4 games make more use of PS5' extra power.

My PS3 controllers did break within 2 years. My 2 launch model PS3s did as well after 3 years.

But it did have the cheapest and best blu-ray player for a long time. Early dedicated blu-ray players at the time of PS3 release were slow, cost $2,000 and became obsolete because they couldn't get patched. PS3 did add 3D blu-ray support later through some magic.

PS3 was great, but expensive and had plenty issues. Modern consoles may suck, but try installing a game on PS3 again that had many patches. It takes days to get GT5 fully working again on a PS3 from original disc install... Patching, installing, OS in general, PS3 feels horribly slow nowadays. It's still a great blu-ray player though :)

Let's not glorify gen 7. I had 2x YloD, went through 7 ps3 controllers, 2x RRoD, 360 charge packs failed after 3 years, HDD failure in PS3 (months to redownload my digital games as I was still on a 60GB monthly limit connection), Disc drive failure in the Wii, Charge packs for Wii remotes all failed, Balance board connection failure. Gen 7 has been the worst for durability.

In addition to @Cerebralbore101 I will add also few things. Online pass was barely a thing, it was there for year at max, other than that you could play everything everywhere 10th hand if you want. Back compat, as I already told, you forget PS1 back compt, it was 100% there. PS1 is old now, but back then it was like playing PS3 games natively now at 100%, so it's a good thing. Also the backcompat with PS1 and PS2 was boosted, you could play all the games with upscaled settings in 1080p, of course it wasn't native 1080p but it was still better image quality than the original ones. Also I've installed many and many games on my PS3 and the only slow thing is in the very few exceptions when the game has many many big patches and you have to wait for hour or two until they are ready, but nowadays this applies for all the games and even last gen too. Other than the patches, PS3 games installed for no more than 5 to 10 minutes which is okay. Also you pointed out having problems with your HDD, because of that you may have had the problems of slower than normal installations. But like @Cerebralbore101 said, just because you hadn't had a luck with your time for 7th gen does not mean it wasn't good or durable. Gen 7 was the worst for durability only for the first 2 years of it's models of consoles, after that, those machines are one of the biggest tanks I've seen. On reddit, ebay and youtube, when I was doing the research of broken systems, there were more cases of broken PS4s and XB1s than later 360 and PS3 models, (excluding the latest cheap toys E model and Super slim, those two were a joke).