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kingofwale said:
trestres said:
Still I find it unreasonable for them to expect that everyone should be buying their game day 1.

Many people don't rush out to buy a game, even less when the game is a spin-off to a new IP. They have to give it time to see if it sells AND make the public aware of the existence of such game.

I'm glad things aren0t working out the way they wanted to when the effort to promote this game was null. And then the threats to Wii owners won't help either.

How much promotion was there for Demon Soul? And yet, it still sold well, base purely on review scores and internet hypes.

 

At least people do know Dead Space name (from its PS360 counterparts).

 

the simply conlusion is.. the developer might be right this time.

ROFFLE! Atlus sent me emails about that damn game every day. I don't even have a PS3. It's cute that you're pretending it leveled the sales charts with no promotion though, that combined with the delusion that metacrtic scorezzzzzz sells games makes it pretty obvious what the agenda here is.

 



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Funny that aside from Others (where Extraction is just slightly ahead), Chop Till You Drop is tracking better.

Why? Could be some reasons.

Perhaps CTYD is more accessible than this (regardless of what you think of that game), and the attempt to have a cinematic feel to Extraction pleased critics more than gamers.

Or perhaps the negative hype for CTYD created more interest than the so-so hype for Extraction.

Did CTYD have more marketing? I really don't know.

Either way, this is not a good way to try to put HD series on the Wii. Rail Shooters are about arcade fun, not trying to be artsy or fancy that this game and HotD Overkill did (compared to the port combo of 2&3 which was all about arcade fun).

Although I can at least say they couldn't have even tried something like this on the HD systems given the cost.



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@kingofwale: Demon's Soul is not an on rails shooter. It was also being hyped and praised by users and critics. This on the other hand was not liked at all, firstly because of the "buy or never get another game" condition, and secondly because the Wii is always getting the watered down experiences as opposed to what the HD consoles get.

Take a look at Muramasa, it sold really well in the USA. It's not only the HD consoles that can do it. Dead Space Extraction was an overpriced, simple and short game with no hype behind and a spin-off to a new IP that didn't sell very well. If their threats become reality I will be glad, because there's nothing that EA is doing properly outside Tiger Woods PGA.



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maykissthebride said:
What a wuss....

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.  If you can't take the heat, get out of the Wii kitchen and stop whining.  And don't act like an on-rails shooter is your big "hardcore market experiment," 'cuz I haven't seen any on-rails shooters on any other consoles recently.

But I do appreciate the Wii becoming the king of arcade games, with the most on-rails shooters and snowboarding games.  There is a good market for that, but when it's 50 cents or $1 at an arcade, these games need budget prices and better marketing.  Something like the marketing of the 80's, like "BRINGING THE FUN OF THE ARCADE INTO YOUR VERY LIVING ROOM!" with zombies exploding everywhere, and some kids giving their parents a high five while they play together.



the game is not really appealing. Now how about just a normal shooter or RPG, or something similar to RE4 Wii wich sold well.



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Too bad for this game... it got great reviews and it still tanked... bigtimes. Well maybe a survivor/horror high advertisement aproach could have made miracles but we will never know I guess



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
maykissthebride said:
What a wuss....

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.  If you can't take the heat, get out of the Wii kitchen and stop whining.  And don't act like an on-rails shooter is your big "hardcore market experiment," 'cuz I haven't seen any on-rails shooters on any other consoles recently.

But I do appreciate the Wii becoming the king of arcade games, with the most on-rails shooters and snowboarding games.  There is a good market for that, but when it's 50 cents or $1 at an arcade, these games need budget prices and better marketing.  Something like the marketing of the 80's, like "BRINGING THE FUN OF THE ARCADE INTO YOUR VERY LIVING ROOM!" with zombies exploding everywhere, and some kids giving their parents a high five while they play together.

that's what I was thinking too. When was the last time a on rail shooter released on PS360?



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I really don't think theres any excuse for this game flopping that hard. I certainly didn't expect it, I mean the genre is a proven seller, I'm certainly not one to question EA's marketing (I'm sure they know more about it then the armchair analysts on here).

I'm guessing that just means the House of the Dead / Resident Evil games are selling off the fact they have that brand name attatched to them, whereas Dead Space doesn't have anywhere near that mainstream appeal. Meanwhile the hardcore Nintendo fans who picked up Muramasa just werent bothered enough by Dead Space.



This kind of thing happens when you take a series jump from one system to another make the new game a prequel to explain the first game a bit more and then make it an on rails shooter, best way to alienate an entire fanbase.

On the other hand it is a great on rails shooter, the issue is the system has a few too many great on rail shooters and the ones that sell well usually start doing so on a budget price since people are more likely to buy a game in a genre known for being short with no depth beyond shooting and moving forward at a more cheaper price point.

Don't get me wrong this game is really a step above and doesn't fit the generalities of the genre, but really guys when you set yourself up to alienate the fanbase you already made then put it at a price point where the people that usually buy the on rails games won't buy them, then do absolutely no TV marketing (at least I didn't see any ads on TV correct me if I'm wrong here) and then complain on NeoGaf when no one buys your game... really... what did you expect?



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saicho said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
maykissthebride said:
What a wuss....

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.  If you can't take the heat, get out of the Wii kitchen and stop whining.  And don't act like an on-rails shooter is your big "hardcore market experiment," 'cuz I haven't seen any on-rails shooters on any other consoles recently.

But I do appreciate the Wii becoming the king of arcade games, with the most on-rails shooters and snowboarding games.  There is a good market for that, but when it's 50 cents or $1 at an arcade, these games need budget prices and better marketing.  Something like the marketing of the 80's, like "BRINGING THE FUN OF THE ARCADE INTO YOUR VERY LIVING ROOM!" with zombies exploding everywhere, and some kids giving their parents a high five while they play together.

that's what I was thinking too. When was the last time a on rail shooter released on PS360?

I think the latest Time Crisis game. Whatever was released with the GunCon 3.



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