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JWeinCom on 15 September 2025
BraLoD said:
JWeinCom said:

So, lets say instead, Nintendo didn't announce the DLC, then waited like three months, and announced/released it then. That seems to mean the original was complete by your definition, but the end result to the gamer is absolutely the same. What you're actually objecting too is the timing of the DLC announcement/release.

It is not like development works by having the team just putting in as much time as they can and then putting whatever they have on release date in the game. There are budgets, and it is quite possible that they used more resources than they otherwise would have had they not planned for DLC.

Personally, my opinion is that if the game has enough content to be worth it at launch, I really don't care if/when DLC is launched. 

Story DLC being announced before the game releases versus story DLC being announced months after the release have vastly different taste, indeed.

Buying a game and before launch having official confirmation that if you don't pay extra for it (to the point it reaches $100) you won't have the full story is completely insane.

Even as companies can and will have this kind of stuff ready or almost ready by launch and wait for the announcement, this can be the case, yes, when it's made official before launch it goes from speculation realm, which you never know, to being official.

You are essentially complaining that they are being transparent instead of waiting till they have your first 70 dollars before telling you the rest of the content will be 30 dollars more. Maybe it should all be included in the initial purchase price, but that's a separate argument that could apply to nearly any game with paid DLC. If paid DLC is in development, it is 100% objectively better for potential customers to know about that in advance so they can make an educated decision.

So, since the content was already in development, their only two real options were to announce it prelaunch, or sit on the content and then release it a few months out. I am assuming that you are a rational person and will agree with me that it is better that we know beforehand. Am I correct to assume that?

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 15 September 2025

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Mar1217 on 15 September 2025

Like I'm not against the talk that's been had over the necessities of announcing DLC or content right before a game has even been released ...

But let's not kid ourselves, there's a huge part of the discourse that hangs out on the premise of exceptionalism cuz this is Pokemon franchise we're talking here.

Where the f**k were y'all when every VG company made this practice a standard since much earlier in the previous generation ?!

Have y'all been blind about all those special deluxe gold editions sold an extra with season passes on top of it all during the last few years or you just wanted a way to vent an extra one because this is Nintendo we're talking here ?

The talking points given here are far from genuine in certain cases here.



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BraLoD on 15 September 2025
Mar1217 said:

Like I'm not against the talk that's been had over the necessities of announcing DLC or content right before a game has even been released ...

But let's not kid ourselves, there's a huge part of the discourse that hangs out on the premise of exceptionalism cuz this is Pokemon franchise we're talking here.

Where the f**k were y'all when every VG company made this practice a standard since much earlier in the previous generation ?!

Have y'all been blind about all those special deluxe gold editions sold an extra with season passes on top of it all during the last few years or you just wanted a way to vent an extra one because this is Nintendo we're talking here ?

The talking points given here are far from genuine in certain cases here.

From the top of my head.

- 5 years ago about Persona 5, one of my favorite games ever, which was once a Playstation exclusive, not having an upgrade path to Royal, on it's review thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9136580

Sadly, many posts simply don't exist anymore after the site and forums had 2 attacks, but some of my posts live in quotes.

- 1 year ago when Sony announced the PS5 Pro and it's ridiculous price, I even compare them to Apple levels of greedness and testing people stupidity to know if they can go head on fully discarding affordability, both on the reveal thread and Playstation thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248452/ps5-pro-revealed-november-7th-2024-699/9/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9538524

- May 2025, about Ghost of Yotei price increase prediction for Brasil after Nintendo and Microsoft announced it, being right about it and being mad my most hyped game was ridiculously priced (R$ 400)

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9588799

- August 2025, about the PS5 price going up:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/249547/sony-will-increase-the-ps5-price-again/3/

I've always been here, I'm also always posting both in Portuguese and English on official announcements on youtube videos, facebook post, instagram and twitter when I still used those, a lot of times companies try to pull shit on me.



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firebush03 on 15 September 2025
BraLoD said:
Mar1217 said:

Like I'm not against the talk that's been had over the necessities of announcing DLC or content right before a game has even been released ...

But let's not kid ourselves, there's a huge part of the discourse that hangs out on the premise of exceptionalism cuz this is Pokemon franchise we're talking here.

Where the f**k were y'all when every VG company made this practice a standard since much earlier in the previous generation ?!

Have y'all been blind about all those special deluxe gold editions sold an extra with season passes on top of it all during the last few years or you just wanted a way to vent an extra one because this is Nintendo we're talking here ?

The talking points given here are far from genuine in certain cases here.

From the top of my head.

- 5 years ago about Persona 5, one of my favorite games ever, which was once a Playstation exclusive, not having an upgrade path to Royal, on it's review thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9136580

Sadly, many posts simply don't exist anymore after the site and forums had 2 attacks, but some of my posts live in quotes.

- 1 year ago when Sony announced the PS5 Pro and it's ridiculous price, I even compare them to Apple levels of greedness and testing people stupidity to know if they can go head on fully discarding affordability, both on the reveal thread and Playstation thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248452/ps5-pro-revealed-november-7th-2024-699/9/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9538524

- May 2025, about Ghost of Yotei price increase prediction for Brasil after Nintendo and Microsoft announced it, being right about it and being mad my most hyped game was ridiculously priced (R$ 400)

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9588799

- August 2025, about the PS5 price going up:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/249547/sony-will-increase-the-ps5-price-again/3/

I've always been here, I'm also always posting both in Portuguese and English on official announcements on youtube videos, facebook post, instagram and twitter when I still used those, a lot of times companies try to pull shit on me.

These examples you pulled up are far more valid than claiming that DLC counts toward the cost of the base game simply b/c it was revealed prior to launch. That’s Mars’s point when he asks where you were at when literally every other studio announced DLC for their game. Why no outrage thread when it was revealed that Xenoblade Chronicles 3 got paid DLC? Elden Ring: SotE? MarioKart 8 Deluxe: Booster Courses? It’s clear you are a Pokémon fan; why are you getting so upset? I don’t understand.

Last edited by firebush03 - on 16 September 2025

Mystro-Sama on 16 September 2025

Announcing DLC before the game even drops is crazy. I don't even recognize Nintendo anymore.



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Otter on 16 September 2025
Mar1217 said:

Like I'm not against the talk that's been had over the necessities of announcing DLC or content right before a game has even been released ...

But let's not kid ourselves, there's a huge part of the discourse that hangs out on the premise of exceptionalism cuz this is Pokemon franchise we're talking here.

Where the f**k were y'all when every VG company made this practice a standard since much earlier in the previous generation ?!

Have y'all been blind about all those special deluxe gold editions sold an extra with season passes on top of it all during the last few years or you just wanted a way to vent an extra one because this is Nintendo we're talking here ?

The talking points given here are far from genuine in certain cases here.

There was massive backlash against this during the 360/PS3 era and it pretty much became uncommon in the AAA space this gen. DLC passes were common on PS4/5 but this normally equate to 1-2 years of support with the first pieces arriving 4-6months after release and not actually being shown off til after the main game was out, so definitely different optics.

I don't think there's any bias here. Just fresh reactions to Nintendo of all people putting this front and center ahead of a games release where people are already questioning the value proposition / effort put into the base product. 

Last edited by Otter - on 16 September 2025

KratosLives on 16 September 2025

The graphics are shit and don't justify even a $40 price tag. Its a wii game at best



BraLoD on 16 September 2025
firebush03 said:
BraLoD said:

From the top of my head.

- 5 years ago about Persona 5, one of my favorite games ever, which was once a Playstation exclusive, not having an upgrade path to Royal, on it's review thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9136580

Sadly, many posts simply don't exist anymore after the site and forums had 2 attacks, but some of my posts live in quotes.

- 1 year ago when Sony announced the PS5 Pro and it's ridiculous price, I even compare them to Apple levels of greedness and testing people stupidity to know if they can go head on fully discarding affordability, both on the reveal thread and Playstation thread:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248452/ps5-pro-revealed-november-7th-2024-699/9/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9538524

- May 2025, about Ghost of Yotei price increase prediction for Brasil after Nintendo and Microsoft announced it, being right about it and being mad my most hyped game was ridiculously priced (R$ 400)

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9588799

- August 2025, about the PS5 price going up:

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/249547/sony-will-increase-the-ps5-price-again/3/

I've always been here, I'm also always posting both in Portuguese and English on official announcements on youtube videos, facebook post, instagram and twitter when I still used those, a lot of times companies try to pull shit on me.

These examples you pulled up are far more valid than claiming that DLC counts toward the cost of the base game simply b/c it was revealed prior to launch. That’s Mars’s point when he asks where you were at when literally every other studio announced DLC for their game. Why no outrage thread when it was revealed that God of War: Ragnorak got paid DLC? Elden Ring: SotE? MarioKart 8 Deluxe: Booster Courses? It’s clear you are a Pokémon fan; why are you getting so upset? I don’t understand.

Why would a Pokémon fan not be upset about getting ripped off? That's even more reason.

God of War Ragnarok got free DLC, by the way, announced and dropped a year after the game was out.



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BraLoD on 16 September 2025
Otter said:
Mar1217 said:

Like I'm not against the talk that's been had over the necessities of announcing DLC or content right before a game has even been released ...

But let's not kid ourselves, there's a huge part of the discourse that hangs out on the premise of exceptionalism cuz this is Pokemon franchise we're talking here.

Where the f**k were y'all when every VG company made this practice a standard since much earlier in the previous generation ?!

Have y'all been blind about all those special deluxe gold editions sold an extra with season passes on top of it all during the last few years or you just wanted a way to vent an extra one because this is Nintendo we're talking here ?

The talking points given here are far from genuine in certain cases here.

There was massive backlash against this during the 360/PS3 era and it pretty much became uncommon in the AAA space this gen. DLC passes were common on PS4/5 but this normally equate to 1-2 years of support with the first pieces arriving 4-6months after release and not actually being shown off til after the main game was out, so definitely different optics.

I don't think there's any bias here. Just fresh reactions to Nintendo of all people putting this front and center ahead of a games release where people are already questioning the value proposition / effort put into the base product. 

EA was voted the world worst company for years in a row and Capcom became a joke because the shit they were pulling during the PS3 gen.

Backslash was there and was strong, indeed.



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160rmf on 16 September 2025
BraLoD said:
Otter said:

There was massive backlash against this during the 360/PS3 era and it pretty much became uncommon in the AAA space this gen. DLC passes were common on PS4/5 but this normally equate to 1-2 years of support with the first pieces arriving 4-6months after release and not actually being shown off til after the main game was out, so definitely different optics.

I don't think there's any bias here. Just fresh reactions to Nintendo of all people putting this front and center ahead of a games release where people are already questioning the value proposition / effort put into the base product. 

EA was voted the world worst company for years in a row and Capcom became a joke because the shit they were pulling during the PS3 gen.

Backslash was there and was strong, indeed.

Voting with their wallets though...



 

 

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