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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Lifetime Showdown: February 2025

 

Will the PS5+XBSX beat the NDS ?

Yes 8 38.10%
 
No 13 61.90%
 
Total:21

All comparisons have been updated with the data for November. You can also vote on the new poll as well.

  • XBSX competitors have been changed to Wii'US (41.7M) and GBA'US (36.1M) since it's pointless in comparing it to the XB1, it's not reaching it, and since there were no consoles in around the 40M mark, I put the US years for those two, since XBSX should settle somewhere in between.

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Regional Lifetime Showdown



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All comparisons and charts have been updated and adjusted with the data for December.

Anyone interested in the same thread however for the different regions such as US, Europe and Japan can also follow this new thread:

Regional Lifetime Showdown (which by the way was just updated yesterday with the new December data for each of the regions!)

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 25 January 2025

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Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX

All comparisons and charts have been updated and adjusted with the data for January.

  • Xbox Series vs Game Boy Advance (US) vs Wii (US) (36M & 42M)

was changed to

  • Xbox Series vs Game Boy Advance (US) vs PS4 (US) (36M & 35M)

XBSX is in a very bad state, and with the recent declines even in it's holiday, I can't see how it will have a chance at making 10M more to 42M, and with expected declines to continue, along with holidays one for sure, it may have even tough time reaching 36M as well. Therefore I decide to put low competitor in the face of PS4'US sales at 35M and high one if it can be named as such in the face of Gameboy US sales at 36M. Of course, if somehow XBSX blow the expectations I can always change back the PS4 one to Wii US sales at 42M.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 01 March 2025

My primary threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX

XtremeBG said:

All comparisons and charts have been updated and adjusted with the data for January.

  • Xbox Series vs Game Boy Advance (US) vs Wii (US) (36M & 42M)

was changed to

  • Xbox Series vs Game Boy Advance (US) vs PS4 (US) (36M & 35M)

XBSX is in a very bad state, and with the recent declines even in it's holiday, I can't see how it will have a chance at making 10M more to 42M, and with expected declines to continue, along with holidays one for sure, it may have even tough time reaching 36M as well. Therefore I decide to put low competitor in the face of PS4'US sales at 35M and high one if it can be named as such in the face of Gameboy US sales at 36M. Of course, if somehow XBSX blow the expectations I can always change back the PS4 one to Wii US sales at 42M.

I really don't think this change is needed. Unless 32m is overtracked it's reaching 36m next year for sure so 36m as the low comparison makes more sense. Even a huge 40% decline for this whole year would leave it at just about 35m by the end of December.



Norion said:

I really don't think this change is needed. Unless 32m is overtracked it's reaching 36m next year for sure so 36m as the low comparison makes more sense. Even a huge 40% decline for this whole year would leave it at just about 35m by the end of December.

The Xbox is not reaching 42M. If the rumors for next Xbox launching 2026 are true, then Xbox Series has 4-5 more to sell and in that case it will finish barely ahead of Game Boy US numbers at 36M and nowhere close to Wii at 42M.

If somehow Xbox Series continue to sell decently and do 36-37M by end of this year (which I highly doubt) I can always change back the comparison to Wii'42M, but with the declines it had last year and January ones (I know its 4 weeks, but still even weekly there is a noticeable drop, it went into the 40s, last year the lowest point was into the 50s, and it was only for like 1 month, now it's doing it in January which often times is stronger than the most of the months for the year) I don't see it doing much more than those 36M in the end, at least not anything closer to 42M. The drop it had from 2023 was more than 2.5M in the end. There will be drop from 2024 this year too, so final number won't be that far off from 36M, but a lot far from 42M. And yes, I also don't exclude the possibility of there being future adjustments down for the XBOX.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 02 March 2025

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XtremeBG said:
Norion said:

I really don't think this change is needed. Unless 32m is overtracked it's reaching 36m next year for sure so 36m as the low comparison makes more sense. Even a huge 40% decline for this whole year would leave it at just about 35m by the end of December.

The Xbox is not reaching 42M. If the rumors for next Xbox launching 2026 are true, then Xbox Series has 4-5 more to sell and in that case it will finish barely ahead of Game Boy US numbers at 36M and nowhere close to Wii at 42M.

If somehow Xbox Series continue to sell decently and do 36-37M by end of this year (which I highly doubt) I can always change back the comparison to Wii'42M, but with the declines it had last year and January ones (I know its 4 weeks, but still even weekly there is a noticeable drop, it went into the 40s, last year the lowest point was into the 50s, and it was only for like 1 month, now it's doing it in January which often times is stronger than the most of the months for the year) I don't see it doing much more than those 36M in the end, at least not anything closer to 42M. The drop it had from 2023 was more than 2.5M in the end. There will be drop from 2024 this year too, so final number won't be that far off from 36M, but a lot far from 42M. And yes, I also don't exclude the possibility of there being future adjustments down for the XBOX.

If it is 2026 it's definitely not but that year isn't a sure thing at all so I'd still say it's premature. The 36-42m range works well for where it'll land depending on the release year for the next Xbox.



Norion said:

If it is 2026 it's definitely not but that year isn't a sure thing at all so I'd still say it's premature. The 36-42m range works well for where it'll land depending on the release year for the next Xbox.

I agree. I returned the Wii in the chart.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 22 March 2025

My primary threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX

All comparisons and charts have been updated and adjusted with the data for February.



My primary threads:

Ultimate Showdowns: JP 2023 / JP 2024 / JP 2025 / 2025 / 2024 / 2023 / 20222021

Lifetime Showdowns: Global / Regional / Historical / YOY Charts / 150M+ Club Chart

Polls: When will the Switch: Outsell the DS? / Outsell the PS2? / LT expectations of: Switch / PS5 / XBSX