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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Road to 160m+ for Nintendo Switch

Amnesia said:
znake said:

time to announce the last Wave of games for Nintendo Switch

Metroid 2 & 3 Remastered - February
Rhythm Heaven - March
Donkey Kong - May
Metroid 4 - Summer
Starfox adventures - September
Pokémon lets go Chikorita - November


Switch 2 early 2025

Are you still a lot here to really believe that MP4 was reported because the first draft quality was disappointing?

This game was going to be ridiculous on Switch compared to the current gen, so they have cancelled the Switch release to upgrade it dramatically to have a strong technical demonstration on the next console.

Where are you getting this information (rumors, leaks, quotes) that Metroid Prime 4 will not release on the Switch?

Because I have info (granted rumors) that it is almost completed.
"According to PapaGenos, as reported on the Gaming Leaks and Rumors subreddit, the development of the fourth entry in the series is basically done and has been for a good while."
The reason why it isn't released yet is because the cutscenes have been deemed to be very bad in quality.

I agree Nintendo still has a good catalog of franchises they haven't touched in a long time.

DK
Rhythm Heaven
Tomadachi
Nintendogs
Star Fox
Mario + Luigi (though the studio is defunct as of 2019)
Kid Icarus
Ice Climbers
Punch-Out
Dr. Mario

And a couple of other franchises that we can assume will come out soon
Let's Go Johto
Pokémon Legends
Pokémon Gen-remakes
Game Freak & Studio Ghibli game
New Monolith IP
Mario & Sonic at the Paris Olympic Games 2024


Games I personally would love to see make a comeback for the Switch in 2024
Rhythm Heaven: Switch
Donkey Kong Country 4
Pilot Wings: Switch
Switch Sports Resort
Flipnote Studio: Switch
Art Academy: Mario, Zelda, Pokémon
Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)
ARMS 2
Nintendimals? (Nintendogs Switch)
And send their Phone App Games to the Switch to buy/free downloads.
Waverace Switch (Waverace64)


Nintendo has a lot to work with and can help push Switch sales farther.
I want to say that Nintendo will do a March 2025 release for the NG, but I will stick with November 2024 until new information arrives.
But I do agree if the NG comes out in March 2025, the Switch will have a very easy time surpassing the PS2 and reaching 160+M.

Last edited by Shtinamin_ - on 11 December 2023

Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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Shtinamin_ said:
Amnesia said:

Are you still a lot here to really believe that MP4 was reported because the first draft quality was disappointing?

This game was going to be ridiculous on Switch compared to the current gen, so they have cancelled the Switch release to upgrade it dramatically to have a strong technical demonstration on the next console.

Where are you getting this information (rumors, leaks, quotes) that Metroid Prime 4 will not release on the Switch?

Because I have info (granted rumors) that it is almost completed.
"According to PapaGenos, as reported on the Gaming Leaks and Rumors subreddit, the development of the fourth entry in the series is basically done and has been for a good while."
The reason why it isn't released yet is because the cutscenes have been deemed to be very bad in quality.

I agree Nintendo still has a good catalog of franchises they haven't touched in a long time.

DK
Rhythm Heaven
Tomadachi
Nintendogs
Star Fox
Mario + Luigi (though the studio is defunct as of 2019)
Kid Icarus
Ice Climbers
Punch-Out
Dr. Mario

And a couple of other franchises that we can assume will come out soon
Let's Go Johto
Pokémon Legends
Pokémon Gen-remakes
Game Freak & Studio Ghibli game
New Monolith IP
Mario & Sonic at the Paris Olympic Games 2024


Games I personally would love to see make a comeback for the Switch in 2024
Rhythm Heaven: Switch
Donkey Kong Country 4
Pilot Wings: Switch
Switch Sports Resort
Flipnote Studio: Switch
Art Academy: Mario, Zelda, Pokémon
Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)
ARMS 2
Nintendimals? (Nintendogs Switch)
And send their Phone App Games to the Switch to buy/free downloads.


Nintendo has a lot to work with and can help push Switch sales farther.
I want to say that Nintendo will do a March 2025 release for the NG, but I will stick with November 2024 until new information arrives.
But I do agree if the NG comes out in March 2025, the Switch will have a very easy time surpassing the PS2 and reaching 160+M.

"Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)"

I hated that they, stupidly, omitted touch control for Picross on Switch when it first released but now that they've fixed that, I'm all for Picross-everything on the system.  And you can add Waverace to that list of games; Waverace 64 was amazing when it released.  Nintendo needs another one of those.

Yeah, I think 2024 is the year for Switch 2 (still sticking with September), with Switch still having a fair chance at 10m+ for one final fiscal.



archbrix said:
Shtinamin_ said:

Where are you getting this information (rumors, leaks, quotes) that Metroid Prime 4 will not release on the Switch?

Because I have info (granted rumors) that it is almost completed.
"According to PapaGenos, as reported on the Gaming Leaks and Rumors subreddit, the development of the fourth entry in the series is basically done and has been for a good while."
The reason why it isn't released yet is because the cutscenes have been deemed to be very bad in quality.

I agree Nintendo still has a good catalog of franchises they haven't touched in a long time.

DK
Rhythm Heaven
Tomadachi
Nintendogs
Star Fox
Mario + Luigi (though the studio is defunct as of 2019)
Kid Icarus
Ice Climbers
Punch-Out
Dr. Mario

And a couple of other franchises that we can assume will come out soon
Let's Go Johto
Pokémon Legends
Pokémon Gen-remakes
Game Freak & Studio Ghibli game
New Monolith IP
Mario & Sonic at the Paris Olympic Games 2024


Games I personally would love to see make a comeback for the Switch in 2024
Rhythm Heaven: Switch
Donkey Kong Country 4
Pilot Wings: Switch
Switch Sports Resort
Flipnote Studio: Switch
Art Academy: Mario, Zelda, Pokémon
Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)
ARMS 2
Nintendimals? (Nintendogs Switch)
And send their Phone App Games to the Switch to buy/free downloads.


Nintendo has a lot to work with and can help push Switch sales farther.
I want to say that Nintendo will do a March 2025 release for the NG, but I will stick with November 2024 until new information arrives.
But I do agree if the NG comes out in March 2025, the Switch will have a very easy time surpassing the PS2 and reaching 160+M.

"Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)"

I hated that they, stupidly, omitted touch control for Picross on Switch when it first released but now that they've fixed that, I'm all for Picross-everything on the system.  And you can add Waverace to that list of games; Waverace 64 was amazing when it released.  Nintendo needs another one of those.

Yeah, I think 2024 is the year for Switch 2 (still sticking with September), with Switch still having a fair chance at 10m+ for one final fiscal.

The Switch isn’t even crushing through 10mil this fiscal year. They certainly will hit maybe 14-15mil for F2023, but F2024 I see being at most 8 or 9mil.



firebush03 said:
archbrix said:

"Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)"

I hated that they, stupidly, omitted touch control for Picross on Switch when it first released but now that they've fixed that, I'm all for Picross-everything on the system.  And you can add Waverace to that list of games; Waverace 64 was amazing when it released.  Nintendo needs another one of those.

Yeah, I think 2024 is the year for Switch 2 (still sticking with September), with Switch still having a fair chance at 10m+ for one final fiscal.

The Switch isn’t even crushing through 10mil this fiscal year. They certainly will hit maybe 14-15mil for F2023, but F2024 I see being at most 8 or 9mil.

Switch should reach 15m for fiscal ending 2024, down from the previous 17.9m.  Nintendo still has some options for Switch next year and depending on what they do, I think a drop of ~5m is possible for fiscal ending '25.  Could be more of a drop though.



With the more and more rumours we get about the Switch 2, and even those that say releasing early next year (likely not, but still can't be too far from the truth) and also with the declining sales (especially in US and Europe this year, and as we all saw Japan is starting to drop too, which all will be even more down, heck Switch won't reach even 2017 US sales .. with Europe barely matching 2017 too.) I really can't imagine how Nintendo will give 2024 full year only for the Switch. The system will finish this 2023 year with 15M at max, and next year if we say the successor is not coming, it surely won't do more than 10M. With successor will be even lower.

Last edited by XtremeBG - on 10 December 2023

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Me thinks the 'Switch2' will be announced as a new member of the Switch family, kinda Gameboy vs. Gameboy Color style.



I need new Rhythm Heaven before Switch ends its cycle ;(



znake said:

I need new Rhythm Heaven before Switch ends its cycle ;(

Bro I need my Rhythm Heaven fix!



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

Tober said:

Me thinks the 'Switch2' will be announced as a new member of the Switch family, kinda Gameboy vs. Gameboy Color style.

If that's the case then Switch will become a +15 year long console. Easily selling over 200M.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

archbrix said:

"Mario, Zelda, Pokémon Picross (from Jupiter Corporation)"

I hated that they, stupidly, omitted touch control for Picross on Switch when it first released but now that they've fixed that, I'm all for Picross-everything on the system.  And you can add Waverace to that list of games; Waverace 64 was amazing when it released.  Nintendo needs another one of those.

Yeah, I think 2024 is the year for Switch 2 (still sticking with September), with Switch still having a fair chance at 10m+ for one final fiscal.

Yes, I agree it was rather infuriating.
And I'm glad things are better. If Nintendo was able to make some free games for the Switch (with in-game purchases), and had daily-tasks or something (like Duolingo's day streak counter) then I think they would be a great source of quick entertainment. And would expand to a wider audience that could be interested in playing their more expensive $60-70 games.

Waverace was a blast, thank you for reminding me, Ill add it to the list of comebacks, they sit on so many hidden treasures it actually astounding that they don't just go crazy with IP's.

September as a release month does make sense, for it gives Nintendo time to figure things out, and also get real life advertising, the word of mouth and such hyped up for the holiday season.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.