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Mandalore76 said:
Dulfite said:

Personally I hope there isn't a Switch Pro and they just do a DSI-level new model. Make it more convenient in some way, not able to play games the regular Switches can't like the New 3ds, then release Switch 2 in 2023. 

That being said, companies do R&D years ahead of time, back when they don't know what sales would be like. So if they had a Pro planned out 1-3 years ago, do they just release it anyway or do they not and accept all the wasted resources that went into designing/developing the pro in the first place?

Well, one of the new rumors going around is that Nintendo is planning to update the dock, rather than the Switch itself.  So, the dock would upscale the games without a new model of Switch needing to be released.  In that case, I think original Switch owners wouldn't have to worry about being barred from buying certain Switch games in the future.  The OG models just wouldn't benefit from the upscaling that the new Docks would be capable of.  If the rumor is true, and if I'm understanding what it implies that is.

dock upgrade is a wrong move.

Switch power is a dynamic style of play. You choose when and how you play your games. A powerful dock is a wrong move.



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Agente42 said:
Mandalore76 said:

Well, one of the new rumors going around is that Nintendo is planning to update the dock, rather than the Switch itself.  So, the dock would upscale the games without a new model of Switch needing to be released.  In that case, I think original Switch owners wouldn't have to worry about being barred from buying certain Switch games in the future.  The OG models just wouldn't benefit from the upscaling that the new Docks would be capable of.  If the rumor is true, and if I'm understanding what it implies that is.

dock upgrade is a wrong move.

Switch power is a dynamic style of play. You choose when and how you play your games. A powerful dock is a wrong move.

What if that is their end goal going forward though? What I mean is, release device with dock (Switch 1 and Dock 1), then release a "pro dock" years later that can enhance the Switch 1's capabilities on TV, then release the Switch 2 after that (which not only performs better in handheld than Switch 1, but performs MUCH better in docked mode because of Pro Dock/Dock 2), then release Dock 3 which enhances the Switch 2 further on TV mode, followed by Switch 3, etc.

If that is what they are planning on the "mid gen" upgrades looking like in the future I could get behind that because then it wouldn't make our handheld Switch's obsolete until the next actual generation comes out 6-7 years later.



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PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Sales Comparison Charts Through January 9 

Year to Date Sales Comparison (Same Periods Covered)

Market Share (Same Periods Covered)

2018 – (Week ending January 13 to January 13)

2019 – (Week ending January 12 to January 12)

2020 – (Week ending January 11 to January 11)

2021 – (Week ending January 9 to January 9)

"Year to date" sales for 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 sales are shown in series at the top of the table and then just below a comparison of 2021 versus 2020 and 2021 versus 2019 is displayed.  This provides an easy-to-view summary of all the data.

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

Microsoft

  • Xbox One – Down Year-on-Year 16,632 (-40.3%)
  • Xbox Series X|S – n/a

Nintendo

  • Nintendo Switch - Up Year-on-Year 131,710 (40.7%)
  • Nintendo 3DS – Down Year-on-Year 18,768 (-93.0%)

Sony

  • PlayStation 4 – Down Year-on-Year 105,553 (-60.4%)
  • PlayStation 5 – n/a


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Dulfite said:
Chrkeller said:

No reason for a switch pro when sales continue to be absurd.

Personally I hope there isn't a Switch Pro and they just do a DSI-level new model. Make it more convenient in some way, not able to play games the regular Switches can't like the New 3ds, then release Switch 2 in 2023. 

That being said, companies do R&D years ahead of time, back when they don't know what sales would be like. So if they had a Pro planned out 1-3 years ago, do they just release it anyway or do they not and accept all the wasted resources that went into designing/developing the pro in the first place?

Take the learnings and apply it to the Switch 2.  I think 2023 or 2024 is a good time for a Switch 2.  I am guessing the technology jump will be quite significant.  



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The 3DS sell-through is only 30k lower than it's official final shipment numbers, so that's presumably the most it can sell this year (approximately). Its sales might already look slow now, but it actually won't be able to keep up this pace for very long.



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2021 predictions:

  • Switch - 27m
  • PS5 - 15.5m
  • Xbox Series - 10m

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Share the article here.

PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Sales Comparison Charts Through January 9 

Year to Date Sales Comparison (Same Periods Covered)

Market Share (Same Periods Covered)

2018 – (Week ending January 13 to January 13)

2019 – (Week ending January 12 to January 12)

2020 – (Week ending January 11 to January 11)

2021 – (Week ending January 9 to January 9)

"Year to date" sales for 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 sales are shown in series at the top of the table and then just below a comparison of 2021 versus 2020 and 2021 versus 2019 is displayed.  This provides an easy-to-view summary of all the data.

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

Microsoft

  • Xbox One – Down Year-on-Year 16,632 (-40.3%)
  • Xbox Series X|S – n/a

Nintendo

  • Nintendo Switch - Up Year-on-Year 131,710 (40.7%)
  • Nintendo 3DS – Down Year-on-Year 18,768 (-93.0%)

Sony

  • PlayStation 4 – Down Year-on-Year 105,553 (-60.4%)
  • PlayStation 5 – n/a

Great comparison. I do think adding 2014 for PS4 and XBO would ve beneficial to compare the first full year with the PS5 and XBSX.



Yeah, I'm also in the camp of hoping the "Switch Pro" isn't a big power upgrade, as an original Switch owner I don't wanna be screwed over and locked out of some games.

Just give it more storage, maybe a better screen, and a dock with 4K upscaling tech.

Save the power jump for a proper successor in 2024.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Why would they make exclusive games on Switch Pro and forget about the 80mil+ Switch + Lite owners? Because that strategy obviously didnt work for the New 3DS. I still believe a Switch Home which comes with the Switch Pro controller, Bigger internal storage and just improves existent Switch games would be a better idea. It doesnt make the OG Switch be removed from the market.



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Chrkeller said:

No reason for a switch pro when sales continue to be absurd.

Switch pro is needed to expand the switch as the iPhone one type phenomenon not just a regular gaming console. To be fair, it’s already heading that way due to COVID.

Either way it’s 100% happening. There are info leaks out of China about supply chain and screen manufacturers just like before the switch lite came out. The only thing missing is an actual picture of the case of the device itself from the factory which I suspect will leak soon enough.