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Agente42 said:
RolStoppable said:

Launch month isn't indicative of momentum at all when both consoles sold out. XSX|S is in better shape than XB1 seven years ago despite a lower launch month, because we have mid-December and no gossip of Xboxes sitting on store shelves; the XB1 came down quickly and was mocked for its unsold Day 1 Editions.

Yeah, we need one year to see a better picture. 

We don't need as much as one year, but we certainly need more than launch month. By March (so five recorded months for these new consoles) we'll already have a good idea.



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shikamaru317 said:

Supposedly Xbox Series production started like 2 months later than PS5 production because MS had to wait longer on their AMD chipset. That seems to have really hurt their launch supply. Demand is far higher than supply, was the opposite for XB1 back in 2013, you could walk into just about any retailer and find an XB1 by Black Friday week, whereas Xbox Series is still sold out everywhere in most countries, including the US. MS is saying that demand is high enough that there may still be sellouts in March. 

That's BS... not peaking to you directly but speaking to that narrative of MS waiting for "fullRDNA2".

MS has had their full final chipset since last year. Its like people forget that MS showed the teardown of their console before sony even showed the box of theirs. Or people don't realize that the case design is the absolute last thing any company does when making a console. This means that by TGA last year when the series X was revealed, MS had already built that conole.

When MS says they are waiting for fullRDNA2, what they are really saying in PR gloss, is "it's taken us longer than we expected moving romXDK to GDK and making GDK feature complete and identical to RDNA2 and we are still working on optimizing our dev kit/tools".



Mostly stock issues, but nevertheless its better to start of with a head start than a head loss.



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RolStoppable said:
Agente42 said:

Yeah, we need one year to see a better picture. 

We don't need as much as one year, but we certainly need more than launch month. By March (so five recorded months for these new consoles) we'll already have a good idea.

One year we can see where the consoles go. we need a good four months(maybe) for earlier predictions. 



RolStoppable said:
B6a6es said:

@RolStoppable

Yeah Series X/S Aint outselling PS5 in the US anytime soon

Launch month isn't indicative of momentum at all when both consoles sold out. XSX|S is in better shape than XB1 seven years ago despite a lower launch month, because we have mid-December and no gossip of Xboxes sitting on store shelves; the XB1 came down quickly and was mocked for its unsold Day 1 Editions.

Guess we have to wait and see, although selling less than Xbone at launch is worrisome (seeing decent amounts of unsold Series S here in UK)



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BraLoD said:
Conina said:

The Xbox One wasn't manufactured and launched in an Pandemic year with huge logistic problems.

Yet the PS5 sold better than the PS4 there in the exact same conditions.

Supposedly Xbox started manufacturing way after ps5 and I think Xbox launched in more countries. It makes sense why they couldn’t have the units they wanted. The demand was there to have a high launch 



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It should be noted that MS launched in way more countries when compared to the XOne.

The Series launched in 40 countries, while the One launched in around 13 countries. So that explains why it had less stock on US.



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RolStoppable said:
Agente42 said:

Yeah, we need one year to see a better picture. 

We don't need as much as one year, but we certainly need more than launch month. By March (so five recorded months for these new consoles) we'll already have a good idea.

Do you actually expect anything to change by March? The only xbox game to come out will have been the Medium. Assuming it doesn't get delayed again.

You're gonna need to wait until the end of 2021 at least for Halo, little alone Forza, and every other game so far behind we have only seen CGI trailers so far.



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The launch sales numbers are meaningless, except to demonstrate a better supply chain on Sony's side. Both sold out all available stock, as they generally do at launch.