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@RolStoppable

Yeah Series X/S Aint outselling PS5 in the US anytime soon



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So PS5 did around ~1,2m in november, in the USA ?
People are saying that Switch (which beat out the PS5 there) did 1.3m.

Apparently the PS4 did 1,14-1,2m or so back then (its launch month), and they say PS5 beat this.
So its likely above 1,2m but below 1,3m (switch sales in total units november).

Also Xbox One (last gen) sold around 900k at launch.
XSX + XSS doing less than that, in november, gives us some compairisons.

XSX/XSS = less than 900k.
Switch = 1,3m
PS5 = ~1,2m



shikamaru317 said:

Supposedly Xbox Series production started like 2 months later than PS5 production because MS had to wait longer on their AMD chipset. That seems to have really hurt their launch supply. Demand is far higher than supply, was the opposite for XB1 back in 2013, you could walk into just about any retailer and find an XB1 by Black Friday week, whereas Xbox Series is still sold out everywhere in most countries, including the US. MS is saying that demand is high enough that there may still be sellouts in March. 

We know Sony planned to make 10m units before end of 2020.
Has Microsoft said how many they are trying to manufacture? (2020?, and/or 2021?)

Apparently theres places in europe where Series X, and S are still around.
In the US, its pretty much sold out everywhere though.



This is great for PS5, and honestly quite bad for XBox.
It legit seems MS has no confidence in the Series, if they sold worse than X1, a system that launched cheaper, either by inflation (vs Series X) or absolutely (vs Series S).

Reminder, MS recently admitted to considering shutting down XBox after the X1 launch, and it seems they didn't expect any better of this one.



All this really says is that MS had fewer units available for NA.Then again, it's also not an excuse.



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RolStoppable said:
B6a6es said:

@RolStoppable

Yeah Series X/S Aint outselling PS5 in the US anytime soon

Launch month isn't indicative of momentum at all when both consoles sold out. XSX|S is in better shape than XB1 seven years ago despite a lower launch month, because we have mid-December and no gossip of Xboxes sitting on store shelves; the XB1 came down quickly and was mocked for its unsold Day 1 Editions.

Yeah, we need one year to see a better picture. 



shikamaru317 said:

Supposedly Xbox Series production started like 2 months later than PS5 production because MS had to wait longer on their AMD chipset. That seems to have really hurt their launch supply. Demand is far higher than supply, was the opposite for XB1 back in 2013, you could walk into just about any retailer and find an XB1 by Black Friday week, whereas Xbox Series is still sold out everywhere in most countries, including the US. MS is saying that demand is high enough that there may still be sellouts in March. 

That's BS... not peaking to you directly but speaking to that narrative of MS waiting for "fullRDNA2".

MS has had their full final chipset since last year. Its like people forget that MS showed the teardown of their console before sony even showed the box of theirs. Or people don't realize that the case design is the absolute last thing any company does when making a console. This means that by TGA last year when the series X was revealed, MS had already built that conole.

When MS says they are waiting for fullRDNA2, what they are really saying in PR gloss, is "it's taken us longer than we expected moving romXDK to GDK and making GDK feature complete and identical to RDNA2 and we are still working on optimizing our dev kit/tools".



Mostly stock issues, but nevertheless its better to start of with a head start than a head loss.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

RolStoppable said:
Agente42 said:

Yeah, we need one year to see a better picture. 

We don't need as much as one year, but we certainly need more than launch month. By March (so five recorded months for these new consoles) we'll already have a good idea.

One year we can see where the consoles go. we need a good four months(maybe) for earlier predictions. 



RolStoppable said:
B6a6es said:

@RolStoppable

Yeah Series X/S Aint outselling PS5 in the US anytime soon

Launch month isn't indicative of momentum at all when both consoles sold out. XSX|S is in better shape than XB1 seven years ago despite a lower launch month, because we have mid-December and no gossip of Xboxes sitting on store shelves; the XB1 came down quickly and was mocked for its unsold Day 1 Editions.

Guess we have to wait and see, although selling less than Xbone at launch is worrisome (seeing decent amounts of unsold Series S here in UK)