The biggest problem I have with this kind of news reporting is that it's too common for people to run with it and regard it as official numbers for Sony or Nintendo. You have anonymous sources of whom you don't know if they really have the whole picture in front of them or if they are filling out blanks themselves.
What's official is that Sony didn't provide a forecast for PS5 shipments which is an odd thing when they've been allegedly planning with higher than PS4 shipments in any case. If they had made a forecast of 8m by March 2021, nobody would seriously consider that weak because it would be a new record for the given time period from launch; and at the same time it wouldn't have been too hard to meet that number production-wise. But perhaps the actual catch is that Sony has been uncertain about actual demand for the PS5, hence no forecast. I am sure we'll get a forecast with Sony's next financial report because by then almost all factors that were cause for uncertainty won't be relevant anymore. In particular, Sony now knows Microsoft's SKUs and their pricing.
Well said. And that echos my thoughts exactly.
We went from 6-10-15-11. That’s weird that they can’t decide on a hard number. The news also gives me the impression the hardware team just isn’t on the ball.
PS4 did 7.4 million by Mar 2014 and that was them being cheaper and compared to a PR nightmare Xbox One launch. This is not 2013 and its weird they have a high bar when they don’t have the price nor power advantage.
You seem to think that power determines how well something sells. You should look at the switch. You also seem to think that sony and MS are on level footing. They simply are not.
Besides, what this report confirms is just that it shouldn't be taken seriously. As Rol said above, Sony has not announced any official guidance with regards to their shipment totals for the year for the PS5. Mind you, they have done so for the PS4. This is like saying something is delayed when a date was never announced to begin with.
Also, potential shipments is a moving target. And has absolutely nothing to do with any hardware team. It's derivative of a number of factors, component availability, competition, price...etc. Sony could have started off with a conservative 6M knowing that would be an easy target to hit, readjusted it to 15M when they were informed that yields are better and that prices of DRAM and NAND flash have fallen, then readjusted it again when told that yields aren't as good as promised. Nothing they could do about that. They aren't the ones making the APU at all. They have lofty goals and expectations, that's the only reason stuff like this is even making the rounds.
If sony manages to ship 11Munits by March 2021 and sells through that lot around the same time or in April and MS only manages to ship and sell 5M, would you still see this as sony not being on the ball?
The speculation that Sony may have gone for 38 CUs instead of 36 thus making yield go lower would mean 5.5% increase in power or going 10.28 to 10.85 Tflop. Not sure the gain is really that good to justify lower yields.
That 38CUs thing is bullshit on borderline impossible lol. GPUs (especially AMD stuff doesn't work that way. You can't have 10 WGPs active workgroups in one shader engine then have 9 active in the other.
You hear anyone peddling rumors like that and you know its just nonsense.
Last edited by Intrinsic - on 15 September 2020