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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 Revises down production - *Update* Debunked

Marth said:
What was that rumor that Nintendo was to announce new hardware, only for Nintendo to deny that and then Nintendo went on to release said piece of hardware?

All companies deny rumors until they want to reveal the information. But do you want to use that as any form of evidence that this rumor is true? Then I have a rumor that Switch 2 will launch next week, must be true as well right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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I do agree that either could've gotten had the supply been right, but oversaturation can lead to a bad year. The PS2 had a massive recession between years 4 and 5. PS2 shipments in order (excluding launch year cause of staggering of launch) 18.59, 24.6, 19.87, 11.93, 19.98, 16.52

The PS2 wasn't hurt in the long run, though I believe there was a price cut the following year, overshipping and (relative to previous years) lower interest led to a pretty decline. Luckily Sony knows how to do business and recovered, but it is worth noting that it isn't always how many console you can ship. In the short run its a good idea, but it could have adverse effects later on.



badskywalker said:

I do agree that either could've gotten had the supply been right, but oversaturation can lead to a bad year. The PS2 had a massive recession between years 4 and 5. PS2 shipments in order (excluding launch year cause of staggering of launch) 18.59, 24.6, 19.87, 11.93, 19.98, 16.52

The PS2 wasn't hurt in the long run, though I believe there was a price cut the following year, overshipping and (relative to previous years) lower interest led to a pretty decline. Luckily Sony knows how to do business and recovered, but it is worth noting that it isn't always how many console you can ship. In the short run its a good idea, but it could have adverse effects later on.

Agree as well. Just wanted to point they all had the potential to 20M in first year, but yes wrongly reading the demand at a price point will make saturation and bad curve.

That was the primary reason for PS4 change in speech, on the start they wanted to sell as fast as possible even with significant loss, but later almost no pricecut and profit on HW because they run their numbers and saw that the demand was at the point they wanted and having more demand or supply wouldn`t net more profit.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Wow, debunked very fast, and Bloomberg caught with its hand in the cookie jar. The only possible innocent explanation could be that some technotard low-level Bloomberg exec handled some Sony statement about ramping up production and merrily and wrongly deduced that it meant Sony actual production couldn't catch up with planned one. Quite unlikely as this stuff isn't console exclusive, any analyst, and the execs leading them, should be able to handle base concepts that apply to any industrial made object.



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Hmm, while I actually doubted it's legitimacy from the beginning, to say it's debunked is misleading.

They denied the production estimates but said nothing about the yields.



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ironmanDX said:
Hmm, while I actually doubted it's legitimacy from the beginning, to say it's debunked is misleading.

They denied the production estimates but said nothing about the yields.

Can't have one without the other?

But 50% yields though is kinda unheard of. That's bad. Like really really bad. Furthermore, 50% yields won't drop production estimates from 15M to 11M, it would literally to it to 7.5M.



With the price for PS5 standard being confirmed 499 will people accept that the whole leak was fake or will try to say Sony didn`t deny fully or can`t be trusted over anonymous rumor?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Intrinsic said:
ironmanDX said:
Hmm, while I actually doubted it's legitimacy from the beginning, to say it's debunked is misleading.

They denied the production estimates but said nothing about the yields.

Can't have one without the other?

But 50% yields though is kinda unheard of. That's bad. Like really really bad. Furthermore, 50% yields won't drop production estimates from 15M to 11M, it would literally to it to 7.5M.

Called it. 

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/446021/sony-aiming-to-ship-over-76-million-ps5-consoles-by-march-31-2021/#comment_608343